J. H. Prynne

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Do you know who Michael Parenti is? There was a minor fuss online a few weeks ago because he has severe dementia and a bunch of young leftists from Reddit somehow managed to get invited to his house and all piled into his living room and took loads of photos with him.
 
Benny Bunter

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luka said:
i find it very distasteful the way these young nobheads are using him to launch their 'careers' i dont know why he's going along with it really
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I get the impression that for all his intimidating status he's quite an approachable chap and always eager to lend a helping hand to to the youth - he's like the Wiley of high modernist poetry.
You should write him a letter and get him to join dissensus and contribute to the acrostics thread, I reckon he'd come up with some bangers
 
luka

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'Poetry as a generic form of discourse practice can have a distinct relation to reflection upon experience which is interior and subsequent to first-order consciousness, so that the formalisms of poetic representation can assimilate to features of conceptual awareness, especially through the conscious projection into language as itself a second-order system of higher level encoding.

The reader is placed into a temporary removal or suspension from the field of action or its direct imitation, and is invited to act as at least in part proxy to representations that are external to the reader's natural self. The reader's role, on other words, is already implictly conceptualised, sharing this intermediate framework with the poet-author as a territory of the imagination where validation rules can be reformulated or even suspended altogether. These free-floating states of invented consciousness are secured from complete disintegration by the rules and practice of language, a much more adaptive and pliable medum than natural experience; and poetical language can be transported from even the fullest range of natural/normal discourse, by the system of poetic transports (figurative and imaginary) which can be reader-intelligible even when previously unknown'

J.H. Prynne Concepts and Conception in Poetry
 
luka

luka

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continued 'These higher 'free' levels of poetic contrivance have been described as already self-conceptualised, in part becasue of language as a mediating code practice or even code structure. But it is possible to consider the most ambitious forms of poetical invention to be those that enter into their own form of conceptual domain so completely as to transform this into its own free 'naturalism', where all is coneptualised and therefore nothing is, a 'possible world', where abstraction functions not as that which is abstracted from something else but as autonomous at levels of second-order meaning and interpretation; this meta-discourse practice is fully supported by the language medium because natural language itself is generically conceptualised in relation to 'what there is', whether 'real' or not, elastic in upwards dimensionality, almost indefinitely so; and this is especially true of poetic discourse constructions. Within such territory, often separated from lower levels by ascription as 'in imagination' or 'sublime' an arbitary text-lexicon can be converted into a distinct vocabulary, and improvised rules for following a narrative or a performance can be formed by modification of lower-order practice, or can be newly invented in their own right. A reader may have a demanding task to interpret these 'rules', but the process may be exhilarating enough to carry the reader forward with strenuous delight'
 
woops

woops

is not like other people
right not got that one and doubt i'll be getting any more of the deluge, plenty on my hands already
 
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