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blissblogger
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Kula Shaker can play though, right? (Only the vaguest of memories). Similar with Ocean Colour Scene.
There is an extra degree of shititude when it's not just aesthetically misconceived but the whole (mis)conception rests on a base of utter fraudulence.
There is an extra degree of shititude when it's not just aesthetically misconceived but the whole (mis)conception rests on a base of utter fraudulence.
blissblogger
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JB has a memoir coming out soon.
qwerty south
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"Stress" was a great tune and they were enjoyable live iirc.
They were doing an important job in a significant "culture war" imo.
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Saw them twice, once at a gig put on by St Albans AFA and in the New X Venue a few years later. Both gigs were way more straightforward 'punk' than the Word performance (which looks kinda goofy) - pre-gig rumours that BNP skins were planning an attack on the gig added to the adrenalin buzz. I still dig "On Yer Toez"
Didn't they beat up Simon Price too after he wrote something about opposing fascists being fascist, and some bitchy comment about "RAR belongs in 1978" (months after Derek Beacon got elected)? Cool
Don't blame him, they were abysmal. I'd be miffed not even playing at or going to it. Speaking of 'industrial', I've just remembered one of the worst UK bands I ever saw live: Sheep On Drugs
Nah, "High Priest of Love", "Dangerous" and "Wild Child" were great!
Leo
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I still own a few ZM singles and the first ep.
Well, you're a man of taste, Leo. I wouldn't expect anything less. Does your rare US punk 7" stash include the first Nuns EP, by the way? I'm baffled that one's still floating around on Discogs for around $50 a pop, given the A-side's absolutely fucking flawless - certainly better than a lot of mediocre '70s platters that sell for $500-$1000+
qwerty south
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The Fratellis - Chelsea Dagger (won't link because it's fuck!ing shit)
"Landfill indie" is mostly shitbrit imo.
Neds have passed the test of time - I'm waiting for their Slowdive-type re-appraisal
shakahislop
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landfill indie is interesting for me, not because there's really anything about the sound that i like, but in keeping with the premise of the thread, there is something interesting about the fact that this resonated with so many people - lets face it principally white working class people in england, or at least that's what it always looked like to me, i mean these categories are gross and loaded but it seems relevant in this case coz its not like its the bangladeshi dispora or the private school kids who are into this, and its not like many girls are into it either for that matter - and that aesthetic judgements aside, that the music itself is so bleak, all about dealing with shit and trying to be hopeful. very boozy music too. goes well with lager. a lot of kitchen sink lyrics as well. totally anti-abstraction. capturing everyday things and emotions. its a boring conservative musical form but still something to think about.
check the bleak colouring and union jack in the video
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shakahislop
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in singing terms morissey has a lot to answer for i think. in terms of people who can't sing that well technically speaking being accepted. i find it a big difference between UK and US. in the US you've got to at least be a decent singer. and generally you've got to be a good 'performer', you can't just stand there on the stage. not necessarily a bad thing the UK approach, i suppose i quite like it. garage girls etc. although you could argue morissey was just picking up on terrain made possible by the punk ethos, and partly the everyman thing that runs through uk music, he's a big part of it i think
Leo
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sadly, I do not own the nuns ep. but on the topic of San Francisco punk gems, do have the avengers "we are the one" and both classic crime singles ("Hot wire my heart" and "frustration/murder by guitar").