Are political events and large-scale disasters now the only form of collective experience?

[version]

I imagine that's partly down to budget. It's a small-scale story. It definitely could have had a bit more environmental detail though. I don't remember seeing any "Fatties".

 

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”We must consolidate being the best cunts and push on to Berlin!” Editorial - S Vine

 

[linebaugh]

I really liked it and though the claustrophobic setting was to its benefit

 

[version]

So did I. I haven't seen The Raid either, so the fighting the way up the tower block thing was still novel for me.

 

[luka]

I really liked it and though the claustrophobic setting was to its benefit

That's different though I'm just saying it's not a judge dredd film

 

[version]

Have you seen the Stallone one?

 

[linebaugh]

 

[luka]

Yeah I saw it at the cinema when it came out

 

[version]

Do you think, perhaps a generation or two down (although maybe sooner), mere taste in content will transform into more of a radical basis of identity?

Because it sure seems, sometimes, that we are on a one-way track to totally expressing our identities indirectly through our favorite content.

Para-social relationships morphing into fanaticisms, perhaps with increasingly explicit political pull?

Sorry if this goes off course, but I think it's complimentary. I think it's interesting to consider celebrity as spectacle incarnate, and attention as currency. In such an economy, it is almost inevitable that some things will garner the attention of everyone - but does that conflict with the trend of fracturing/diversifying content varieties?

Also sheds a bit of light on how someone like Trump can get where he's gotten, attention-mongering, etc.

A bit nerve-wracking: could the generations who developed their social fluency in the arena of social media, those perhaps a bit more adjusted to ever more colorful personas competing for attention-currency - could such competition translate directly into politics when these generations come of age?

I read something a while back re: "cancel culture" being incorrectly viewed as stemming from critical theory when people should really be looking at fandom culture and "policy documents, market dynamics, bureaucratic structures, and legal frameworks, especially around the issues of risk and liability".

 

[luka]

Stan is talking there about things that already happened decades ago

 

[version]

You can tune out of the news like you can a TV show now. It feels of about as much consequence.

 

[constant escape]

Yeah thats kinda what I had in mind about most people's political sensibilities not extending beyond the formulation of convenient and straightforward narratives. And how the sustaining and updating of such a narrative, more or less dictated by this or that news source, is pragmatically in the interest of keeping up appearances, appearing to have the best takes.

Rather than being informed in the interest of actually developing an intuitive/predictive understanding of things.

So yeah, tuning out the news is of about as much consequence as tuning out popular shows, the felt damage being a somewhat dulled social wherewithal, less of a breadth for exercising social capital.

 

[constant escape]

And almost all of it is done in bad faith of being politically informed. Granted there are some substantial elements of such information. I'm just saying that things are too complicated, and people's patience/interest generally isn;t rich enough, for such information to really be in the interest of developing meaningful understandings.

 

[version]

I've a feeling at some point we're going to end up doing a big thread on The Spectacle and hyperreality.

 

[constant escape]

The momentum from the marvel thread could really grant us insight, provided we submit fully to it.

"Show me how to be cool, Tony!"

 

[constant escape]

Insight, momentum into this incipient thread of the spectacle.

 

[constant escape]

I think the paradigm is laid out gnostically and simply enough by: Religion is the opiate of the people -> God is dead -> society of the spectacle. Spectacle as the opiate.

 

[constant escape]

The Vicarious Libido.

 

[WashYourHands]

The Situation could be more of a stimulant.

 

[constant escape]

What energies can the spectacle societally and systematically purge that may otherwise swell and compromise the society/system?