luka

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Monarch Programming is a method of mind control used by numerous organizations for covert purposes. It is a continuation of project MK-ULTRA, a mind-control program developed by the CIA, and tested on the military and civilians. The methods are astonishingly sadistic (its entire purpose is to traumatize the victim) and the expected results are horrifying: The creation of a mind-controlled slave who can be triggered at anytime to perform any action required by the handler. While mass media ignores this issue, over 2 million Americans have gone through the horrors of this program.

NOTE: This article contains disturbing elements and might trigger Monarch survivors.
 

boxedjoy

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It's interesting how much more comfortable Cyrus seems in her own skin than Grande. Or is it charisma?

I really like Grande, especially when she's doing fake-Mariah slinky r&b. She's got a really charismatic persona on her music - playful, flirty, sexual, coy, elegant and seductive. But any time I see her interviewed or performing she just seems so stiff and uncomfortable. I think part of that is down to the Nickelodeon background - she's basically been groomed for this role from a young age and it can't be easy to lose that training. The backlash she received for that time she licked a doughnut and said she hated America was unreal too, I can't imagine she would want to go through that again in the age of stan-obsessed Twitter wars. Between the ex who took his own life and the Manchester terror attacks, on top of the pressures of pop stardom, I can understand why she seems so guarded and tense.
 
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thirdform

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irritating shit. makes me ashamed to be bi.

Then I reach for the Patrick Cowley and it's all better, but still. See also Kylie. I'm an enemy of cuteness.
 
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thirdform

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Released to near universal critical acclaim, the record features back-up vocals by Stevie Nicks and Joan Jett

this is what I was saying to catalog. I can't stay in this boring middle. either you have to go full humanistic music or go full machine. the middle ground is the worst place to be.

even @luka agrees. the dialectic demands the motown gabber synthesis.
 

linebaugh

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Miley doesnt have a great voice. That clip of her with grande really shows it. Miley sounds alright when belting out an extended note but everything else sounds pedestrian and bland, particularly next to someone like grande who puts color on each syllable. it can account for her manically switching between over the top aesthetic styles, looking for the right way to compensate.
 

linebaugh

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Was Miley the first to conciouslly become the trainwreck former child star? Not the first to do it obv, but the first to make deliberate efforts to embody that role.
 

linebaugh

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I think thats something the new generation of zoomer internet stars understands. Their fame rests entirely on being young, extremely public and a mess. Like if Brittney spears burst onto the scene bald headed without the music career, or Lindsay lohan never did mean girls. Miley could be a harbinger in this way
 

linebaugh

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Paris hilton and Kim Kardashian types are in there as well, but I dont think their appeal was ever as grotesque or predicated on youth. More old world spectacle.
 

kumar

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i was talking to a friend the other day about who the most recent child sacrifice was and we couldn't come up with one since miley
 

linebaugh

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i was talking to a friend the other day about who the most recent child sacrifice was and we couldn't come up with one since miley
Yah. Miley was either the first to commit seppuku or the last to get shoved in the wickerman
 
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