Listen to this you knobheads

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thirdform

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john eden said:
Maybe the Wire people do listen to stuff intently but they have different ears?

Like I wouldn't read the Wire to find out about Grime or Drill (or rap lol) but it might be interesting to read what someone who is really into Derek Bailey and Xenakis makes of Grime or Drill.
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I mean, that's Muggsy isn't it? Waxing lyrical about everything. never actually seen him write a truly negative review. even for crusty stuff, he's always like yes, it is 1992 bristol uni dreadlocks and cultural exoticisation, but look beyond that, and, and...
 
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thirdform

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Both of those songs are warm. Even the second with that atonal sound in the background, it's all in the service of the warm melifluous aesthetic. Whereas Buju or Capleton used to be much gruffer, much more uninviting. Much colder... Not homely. That's the word that sticks in my mind. Dancehall is homely music now. Feet up, spliff in hand is just as valid as roadman. The music appeals to both demographics - directly - you don''t have to do the work of gravitating to one or the other.

It's like pastoralism has become a default modality of dancehall, which was not really the case from the digital to the 90s era, where there were of course melodies but there was a lot of deliberately clanging machine sounds - not necessarily like techno but you couldn't imagine most 90s dancehall productions being played acoustically. You can with this stuff though.

Castrated straight men to appease the liberal straights. I can play log on with Sylvester though, because I don't have liberal guilt. In my world Elephant man and Patrick Cowley are equally as valid. The triumvirate of disco, dancehall, resolving to gabber and speedcore.
 
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Do you remember the summer when all that slow tropical house was getting played in the gyms. Kygo and that

I really wish MCs didn't end up spitting on that the way they have
 
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The cigar smoke coming out of Sixx's mouth looks like frozen breath in the context of the tune. I like the suffering from success thing going on - Damocles' ice sickle.
 
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forclosure

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both tunes are fine, i don't know about "takes drill to a new dimension" but they're cool

first track sounds built for a "background music playlist" tho
 
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forclosure

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honestly man I wish i came away strongly like you or barty or some people here do,shit even if i came away hating these tunes that would be something

but these days my reaction to these tunes is "this is just fine"
 
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I think so.... Sort of. But it doesn't work if the music is devoid of merit entirely. It's strange.
 
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bun-u said:
Weirdly though when I first started starting The Wire in a WH Smiths (in about 1994) is one one of the only available mags writing about jungle and rap. Also I think back then there wasn't really a 'wire-mag' aesthetic - is was a jazz mag that had got interested in other stuff. There's now a Wire reading niche demographic, and Wire type Wire type places like Cafe Oto in most big cities
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This is exactly right. The wire is a terrible terrible thing now for this very reason. I don't want it to exist. I want it rubbed out.
 
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