Astroworld horror

[blissblogger]

horrible, horrible... heads must roll for this....

but one thing I can't my head around - in my mind I think of Travis Scott's music as "file under ambient" - dreamy, wispy, electronic vapors.... "Goosebumps", "Sweet Sweet" etc

The tunes don't seem designed for slam dancing and people going berserk

When did his whole thing become about getting the audience to rage?

 

[luka]

i dont understand this thread. is this young people slang or something

 

[Leo]

I don't know enough about his music to answer that, but there's always a related business story to celeb or influencer collaborations

Dior’s Entire Next Men’s Collection Is a Travis Scott Collab – Now It’s a Business Nightmare​

After the Astroworld tragedy, “this icon to Gen Z now has effectively detonated in your face,” says one expert. “It’s an apocalyptic marketing turn.”​

 

[catalog]

Is he really called Travis? I thought he was c&w when I heard that name.

 

[Leo]

Is he really called Travis? I thought he was c&w when I heard that name.

real name Jacques Bermon Webster II. seriously.

 

[catalog]

Crazy

 

[catalog]

That you would change your name from that to that I mean.

 

[Corpsey]

 

[Benny Bunter]

I thought this thread was gonna be about how horrible his Astroworld album was (and it really is horrible, unlistenable to me) didn't even know about the recent tragedy.

From my perspective all of these big American festivals look apocalyptic and violent - echoes of Woodstock '99, and going back a lot further, Altamont?

 

[version]

A bunch of people have been trying to mythologise the whole thing and claim it was a demonic ritual involving human sacrifice, but it just comes off as an embarrassing attempt to heighten the drama and make their lives a bit more exciting.

There was some bullshit going round about people in the crowd being injected with something too, including a security guard, but it's apparently been dismissed and the security guy said he was just punched.

 

[Benny Bunter]

Doesn't seem like there's much connection between Scott's music itself and what happened at the festival.

Could it be more to do with a post-Covid lockdown blowout? a release of pent-up frustration or something like that?

 

[Benny Bunter]

Or more likely just shitty, inadequate organising of vast numbers of people?

 

[catalog]

This year's fyre

 

[version]

Doesn't seem like there's much connection between Scott's music itself and what happened at the festival.

Could it be more to do with a post-Covid lockdown blowout? a release of pent-up frustration or something like that?

Maybe the music comes across differently in a live setting. It isn't the first time he's been partially blamed for someone getting injured at one of his concerts;

'They Weren't Prepared': Experts Point to Missed Warning Signs at Astroworld

From gate-crashing fans to a history of safety concerns at Travis Scott shows, red flags piled up before the Astroworld tragedy.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[version]

Could it be more to do with a post-Covid lockdown blowout? a release of pent-up frustration or something like that?

Or more likely just shitty, inadequate organising of vast numbers of people?

Sounds like a bit of both.

 

[Benny Bunter]

I suppose the problem with TS has always been excess (musically and also the whole Astroworld concept that's lead to this disaster). When he tones it down and/or collaborates with other people he's often great - The Huncho Jack album with Quavo, the Don Toliver collabs, other odds and ends.

Love this new single with Donny.

 

[Leo]

I assume this is what Simon is referring to:

A master of marketing who is equally skilled at curating big-name collaborators and exclusive experiences, Mr. Scott is a figure of few words and little eye contact who isn’t known as a technically adept rapper or a dynamic offstage celebrity. Instead, he has built his multiplatinum, widely licensed name as an avatar of excess and a conductor of energy — an electric live performer who prioritizes how his music makes you feel (and act).

Since 2015, when he established himself as a reliable concert headliner, Mr. Scott (born Jacques B. Webster) has gained an international reputation as a star attraction and an evangelist for good-natured physical expression — what he calls “raging” — whipping up mosh pits, crowd-surfers and stage-divers as his shows teeter on the edge of mayhem. In a rare trajectory, the smash hits came only later.

 

[luka]

barty is still very proud of the time he compared travis scot to meatloaf

 

[luka]

i don't like him for the most part. i even once said he was the meatloaf of the 2010's. he has prog rock sensibilities with some of the instrumentals.

Hes more like Def Leppard to me

 

[version]

Wasn't it him who did that concert inside Fortnite?