uk comedy is in a nadir

[IdleRich]

The article says that things aren't funny cos there are accepted joke formats (ie it's cliched), he says the jokes have to pass vetting tests to avoid lawsuits (not if they're not woke but if they insult powerful people or companies and can't be backed up), he says there is no conflict cos of "chuminess", he says that cos we live in a democracy there is no real enemy to satirise, he says that the satire doesn't challenge power at all as evidenced by the fact that Johnson was once a panellist on HIGNFY and then went on to be PM, he says that you can't have satire until you abandon all hope, he says satire has to come from a position of powerless and so it can't be done by "heritage televsion" and yes he does also mention sensitivity readers whatever they may be.

In other words, he lists hundreds of reasons why satire doesn't work, the most important presumably being the one about how it can't speak truth to power, seeing as that is the one which is chosen to summarise it and which he says several times in different ways. But sure the article is actually about one thing he mentions in passing which could possibly be construed as being about wokeness.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Ie., if none of the other problems applied, sensitivity readers would defang any material anyway, in the name of wokeitude.

 

[IdleRich]

So your claim has changed from "the article says it's cos of wokeitude" to "the article could be construed to imply that, if things were different then it would be cos of wokeitude" - it definitely feels as if you're starting to understand the article now.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

So your claim has changed from "the article says it's cos of wokeitude" to "the article could be construed to imply that, if things were different then it would be cos of wokeitude" - it definitely feels as if you're starting to understand the article now.

Yes, the sensitivity filters would suffice to output a strained beige comedic mulch - I don't see how that can be disputed.

It's political correctness gone mad, as many fine minds have already opined

 

[Mr. Tea]

I'm sure this has been posted here before, but relevant again in this thread, I think.

Jonathan Coe · Sinking Giggling into the Sea · LRB 18 July 2013

Boris Johnson has become his own satirist, safe in the knowledge that the best way to make sure the satire aimed at you...

www.lrb.co.uk

 

[WashYourHands]

Post-Morris, where can these forms go? You’d never have a gem of a skit now of a pedo disguised as a school

Commissioning of content seems an obstacle of doomed to fail proportions

My eldest and his mates are devotees to mbbants fwiw, some roadmen sketches work beautifully while others can clang

 

[shakahislop]

at a nadir, not in a nadir

 

[IdleRich]

Yes, the sensitivity filters would suffice to output a strained beige comedic mulch - I don't see how that can be disputed.

It's political correctness gone mad, as many fine minds have already opined

Absolutely, it's political correctness gone mad, the whole world is going to hell in a handcart... you couldn't make it up. Although, admittedly, in this case you just did.

 

[WashYourHands]

Biscuits = S Lee?

 

[wild greens]

Roy chubby brown

 

[Mr. Tea]

Roy chubby brown

Jim Davidson.

 

[WashYourHands]

Matt Le Tissier

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Would comedy be better without the pearl-clutch prognosticators?

Nail your colours to the mast

 

[WashYourHands]

Pro-gnosticators or prog-nosticators?

 

[IdleRich]

I thought it was an open secret that MB is Richard LIttlejohn in disguise.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Would comedy be better without the pearl-clutch prognosticators?

Nail your colours to the mast

Where do pearl-clutchers rank on the scale that includes bed-wetters, tree-huggers and yoghurt-weavers?

Do they have their own 'brigade'?

 

[WashYourHands]

The Devonians!

 

[IdleRich]

Would comedy be better without the pearl-clutch prognosticators?

Nail your colours to the mast

Who are these pcps? Give us a few names so we can make an informed decision, until then the answer I nail to the mask has to be a resounding "maybe".

 

[Leo]

Biden had a decent one-two punch at this weekend's Washington Correspondent's Dinner:

“This is the first time a president attended in six years. It’s understandable — we had a horrible plague, followed by two years of Covid."

“Just imagine if my predecessor came to this dinner this year — now that would really have been a real coup.”

 

[IdleRich]

I actually watched that Noah guy's speech cos i saw a few people saying how good it was. But, really, if people think that was funny then they must have very low standards indeed. I don't think I saw Biden's bit but I don't think Noah managed a single line as good as that in his whole time on the podium.