Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

[droid]

Yep, its happening right now.

 

[droid]

you are right. during the covid pandemic several constitutional rights were thrown overboard, unthinkable restrictions were implemented. i remember already back then that certain people and groups warned that this would set a precedent. and i remember as well that these people were demonized, ridiculed and portrayed as fascists. but they were right, as we can see now.

"The judiciary hostile to fundamental rights, as we know it from the Berlin Administrative Court in the case of Palestine demonstrations, we owe to the era of Corona. Back then, the foundation was laid for lowering the threshold for banning demonstrations. Many people, due to justified uncertainty about the virus, thought it was correct that fundamental rights had to be restricted. Those who still demonstrated were broadly denigrated as "deniers" or conspiracy theorists. Hardly anyone stood up to protect these people, to say, "Hey, they also have fundamental rights." Currently, I see similar tendencies: Solidarity with Palestine is branded as "hateful antisemitism." The restriction and denial of fundamental rights are shrugged off or even celebrated. "Antifa means deportation," I recently read somewhere, accompanied by a picture of a Palestine demonstration." https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/473789.autoritärer-staatsumbau-palästina-ist-der-lackmustest-für-die-bürgerlichen-freiheiten.html

This is kinda absurd. The police in Germany (and most other Western countries) were kicking the shit out of left wing protestors for decades before covid, constitutional protections or no. In Germany, specifically, pro-Palestinian activism was repeatedly targeted prior to covid, as was climate activism and anti-capitalist action. In fact the lockdown period was marked by one strange occurrence: mass, often violent right wing anti-lockdown protestors were mostly treated with kid-gloves in stark contrast to how the left are normally treated.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

do you guys think what's taking place in the usa could grow into a mass movement?

What, students refusing to do any work? Isn't that already a mass movement?

 

[mixed_biscuits]

I don't understand what the goal is here...is it to turn a local conflict into a global one?

 

[mixed_biscuits]

It must be terrifying to the authorities when the rent-a-mob reaches the peak of its fervor and unleashes...the campsite!

 

[mixed_biscuits]

The more friends Palestine appears to Israel to have, the harder Israel will want to squash it; just as you hit a big bloke harder than you hit a small bloke, especially because you don't want an angry big bloke getting up again.

 

[Mr. Tea]

The more friends Palestine appears to Israel to have, the harder Israel will want to squash it; just as you hit a big bloke harder than you hit a small bloke, especially because you don't want an angry big bloke getting up again.

In sum, then, every dead Palestinian child is the fault of Western protesters who are demanding that Israel stop killing them, and not of the Israelis who are killing them.

 

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