if New York can die so can London
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shakahislop
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do you live there? is there any life left?
shakahislop
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what I'm talking about is a fall from grace. if new york is dead as per the framing of this thread, then my impression is that san francisco is not only dead but has already been cremated
Mr. Naga Pickle
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My friends & I arrived @ komotion at about 7:30. Bryce, Sean(sp?), and a few others were still settin' up and we helped carry a few items in from the car. This wuz the first time I had ever been to komotion and to be honest was quite shocked as 2 how small it wuz. "Oh well!" I decide, it will probly still B good. I tend 2 prefer smaller vibier parties 2 huge events anyway. Unfortunately, my friends didn't share my opinion and convinced me to try out FTT. We got to FTT at around 8 and stayed till about 9:20. During that time the line didn't move AT ALL! BTW, off the subject, what is up with chargin' $25 for a rave?? Yeah, part of it was $15 but for that U had to arrive b4 nine oclock! Isn't that a bit early? Isn't a 10 dollar jump in price abit much?? Especially since no one was let in b4 nine anyway??? We had encountered the same crap @ futur ($25 after 12). I mean sure they spend a lot of cash, but from the amount of people there they make way more money! Anyways, we had decided b4 not to pay $25, so when we found out that we couldn't get in for 15 we left and went back to FF4. We got back a little b4 10 oclock and the muzik was already on.No need 2 wait, we started dancin' right off. I cut open one of my glow sticks, and me and some girl put glo stuff in each others hair, but this didn't work very well at all(p.s. If U R readin this, what was your name? I completely forgot to ask U what it was!) Someone (it might've been sean, I don't quite remember) was passing around a whole box of blo pops. This was *much* appreciated and from then on I just new the vibe here would B spectacular! The muzik also was hella good from the very start with Tamotsu(sp?) playin' a really cool set. As more and more peeple arrived, the event just got better and better. Soon I popped a FAT hit of E that fuckin just rocked my world. The vibe here was the best I have seen in at least 2 years. It reminded me of back when I had just started ravin. Everyone was all smiles and sooooooo friendly. I met an incredible # of people at this rave and talked soooo much. Plenty of people had dressed up for Halloween (someone had even dressed up as a cop which scared me at first!). Scores of people were handin out candy! I go more candy there than I've ever gotten at a rave b4. Everyone was just so unbelievably positive! Instead of many raves where I feel like I'm ravin' *around* others, here I felt that I was ravin *with* others. Peeple were handin' out stickers and lots of peeple shared their toys with me. The visuals were cool and I wondered what the videocamera was for. If it was all videotaped I have got to have a copy. I talked to Captin Crunch who I've seen at practicaly every single rave but have never spoken to till then. (If you R readin' this, U asked me to e-mail U but what was your address??) Soon Bryce took over the turntables and played a hella cool set. I think it was him who played master and servant. Me and my best friend just went completely nuts (we *love* Depeche mode). What was that one song he played withe the sample "put it in"?? The dancefloor started getting *really* packed and *hot*. the fans helped some but not enough. Not that the heat stopped me or anyone else. Everyone continued jumpin around and dancin. Everyone was havin' such a good time I couldn't believe it! They were giving out free water and also chips and salsa (U guys filled my water bottle with *cold* water. THANK U!!!! I needed it bad!) Someone let me borrow their spray bottle and I danced around for a while sprayin everyone around me. They loved it being hot as they were altho I think I accidentally squirted the camera man. sorry! When Ethan came on he just TORE SHIT UP!!! He just played the most INSANE set! I went absolutely mental dancin to those hard poundin beats. I just had to get my friends who were coolin' off outside, and dragged them back in to witness just how good the muzik was! They danced their asses off too. I continued dancing for what seemed like an eternity. After a while tho my faces acshully started 2 hurt I was soo hot.(my friend said that my eyes were bulging outta my head and that I was acshully steamin'!!). I took arest then started dancin again. Even tho I was starting 2 get tired the muzik was just too good to resist! I spotted Brian in his X-ing shirt and finally got 2 meet him after all that stuff I've read of his on the net. The vibe was still hella up and even tho it was around 4 the place was still packed and people were still havin a wonderful time. I took a break outside around 4:30 but whe I came back in the heat was just too much to bear. Also the muzik was a bit fast for that early in the mornin and I was kinda feelin nausious(sp?) from my E. So I left what had to have been the greatest experience.
Mr. Tea
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If On The Road had been written in a style even half this engaging then maybe I'd have read more than the first quarter of it.
ghost
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the old san francisco is dead but the new one has been born. it's the time of monsters 🤠
Mr. Tea
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I spent a weekend in SF in about 2005 with my girlfriend at the time. We enjoyed it, but the hostel we stayed in had, shall we say, looked more salubrious on its website than it was in real life. There were these sort of wipe-clean sheets on the bed, and down the corridor we could smell people cooking. What they were cooking was certainly not food.
shakahislop
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there's a hugely enjoyable genre of brits in america tales like this, seems to happen to loads of people, where they book some accommodation as they would in any other country and end up in the heart of darkness. it's brilliant. i think people accidentally get a lot out of these. my brother ended up staying in some part of orlando where people kept telling him he should leave coz it wasn't safe for him. my cousin managed to bring his young children for a three day jaunt in brownsville. i don't know what it is or why it happens so much. maybe my family is genetically thick. in addition to that its partly people grappling with the expense of being in america and and partly that equivalent neighbourhoods aren't a thing in europe
shakahislop
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shakahislop
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one thing i've seen in few couple of places now is the idea that nyc nightlife truly was dead in the early 2010s, but that it's much better now. mostly recently a dj called physical therapy that you see all over lines ups saying this:
It's changed so much. When I first moved here, it was kind of electro-clash. There were little things going on, like Bunker, people were definitely throwing techno parties and there was GHE20 G0TH1K, people doing more club music parties. But the sound of New York at that time was going to a bar and watching an heiress DJ a mixture of hip hop and '50s rock. So it took a long time, the scene had to build itself up from scratch again. Now it's crazy. There are so many huge clubs, DIY parties, and house and techno bars you can go to now. I remember when it was like, you would post your party on Resident Adviser and there would be two events in New York that weekend. Now it'll be like 50.
its a narrative i like
It's changed so much. When I first moved here, it was kind of electro-clash. There were little things going on, like Bunker, people were definitely throwing techno parties and there was GHE20 G0TH1K, people doing more club music parties. But the sound of New York at that time was going to a bar and watching an heiress DJ a mixture of hip hop and '50s rock. So it took a long time, the scene had to build itself up from scratch again. Now it's crazy. There are so many huge clubs, DIY parties, and house and techno bars you can go to now. I remember when it was like, you would post your party on Resident Adviser and there would be two events in New York that weekend. Now it'll be like 50.
its a narrative i like
old goriot
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Same for a lot of North American cities.. Around 2010 it was small crappy blog music nights on the smaller scale, or big EDM fests with not much in between. Electronic music had been building up since the house/tech-house revival in the 2010s and then just went insane post-pandemic, mainly techno. I was around for the 90s and right now is actually better on just about every level imo. Better venues, better sound systems, better drugs, music is good, the crowds are cool
chava
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How can anything be better than the 90s, let alone all things techno related
Mr. Naga Pickle
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guessing dude is a fan of doing ket with pretentious yuppies while oontz so generic it would have sounded lame and dated
25 years ago drones in the background bc this is pretty much all us techno parties have to offer these days.
old goriot
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By ketamine and pretentious I assume you’re referring to minimal techno? That scene pretty much died out over 10 years ago at this point, and is generally regarded as the all-time nadir of techno.
Some newer stuff I would go see would be something like 999999999 who played Knockdown Center in NYC on Saturday. I’m not the biggest fan of her current sound but I’ll probably go see Sara Landry cause the show will be hype
On the more groovy end of things I like Stef Mendesidis, Marron, Funk Assault that sort of thing. And the DJ Heartstring eurodance type stuff is fun for daytime parties
chava
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It will be back within 5 years if the current hard/fast/whatever techno bollocks doesn't calm down a bit
Sectionfive
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NYC club culture is definitely exporting an influence of sorts again for the first time in a long time. A lot more happening now beyond like, the MAW generation keeping the flame or whatever it was for two decades and new American DJs are travelling again, when I don't think that demand had been there for years. Handful of clubs becoming well know destinations internationally like it had always been but the big change now is I don't think you can point to a sound that is distinctly New York as you could easily throughout the 80s & 80s