not sure if rashad and juke producers shd be mentioned in that list along with swamp 81, night slugs etc etc. theyre pretty separate. include them and you might as well include fly lo and the brainfeeder camp. also thought the butterz guys should have been included - they basically make grime thats for the post dubstep crew (no dis to them, just saying its not exactly straight ahead grime). also i dont think blackdowns involvement with the scene has anything to do with his backing of this stuff, its more that this stuff reflects his tastes. i mean, hes obv been a scene insider since day one. maybe the main prob ppl have with this stuff is that the straight funky, what shd be the clear opposition to this stuff, isnt cutting it. if it was, maybe no one wd care about this stuff as much.