SecondLine
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Yeah I think the ratio of shop types to punters was probably obscene.
Great night though.
Great night though.
Blackest Ever Black
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CrowleyHead
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I mean, Slimzee didn't even show up I hear, so that seems to go hand in hand with the remainder of the sets. The only truly danceable guys were Raime & Source Direct, right?
I don't think there was anything in Room 2 that wasn't danceable. Annoyingly missed Bruce Gilbert but heard he was playing techno (amongst other stuff), started to get ravey with Bill Kouligas and Powell, Raime played jungle, Regis played his brand of techno.
Good fun in there.
Good fun in there.
On a side note, is anyone else getting fed up with the pre-order ticket thing that is dominating nights out in London? It's killing it for me, as a night out is a spontaneous thing, you don't know how many people you'll be, what mood you'll be in etc. And now if you don't wanna get ripped off you have to book a ticket weeks in advance for most of the big nights.
LONG.....
LONG.....
viktorvaughn
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Yep.
Also all this Venue TBA shit, it's not like they are illegal raves or anything, I don't understand the point. I went to Netil house a while back and it was so hot I do not want to return but sometimes you don't know where a night...
Martin D
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Nothing like.
everything like. except palette.
and timings and politics and and and and and
too bad you're missing the forest for the trees brohammed
superficially they're pretty similar, dark techno about the west's war on Islam, but i would say that Shackleton is just as inspired by Muslimgauze and doesnt really sound like Vatican Shadow, they're all just part of this western orientalist thread i guess. just depends on how much you zoom in
Martin D
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Not really, I just don't agree, on the surface you could say what you're saying but if you'd listened to 90% of MG releases you just would make such a statement but hey.
i wasn't even talking about thematically.
their uncanny similarities for me have to do with form and composition: loopy repetition, exact distance from dance floor, particular ways acoustic samples are used, epic textural dread, ambient entropy -- in the general feel of the music, the specific kind of vague atmosphere it evokes, and over all aesthetic treatment of the subject (which are themselves, as pointed out, very similar).
even their names are so scarily symmetrical when placed side by side... almost... conspiratorial.
also: the Shack and many others may have a few pieces which are reminiscent of Muslim Gauze, but others in their catalogs go in other directions.
while the entire output of Vatican Shadow so far, taken as a whole, bares intense resemblance to that of Muslim Gauze. How all the releases are only different facets of the same vision, how they are all related and part of a singular, maniacal Project, how no release EVER deviates from The Project they have obsessively set out to do.
In the very prolific fashion they churn out the vast bodies of work, which has no beginning and can never be finished... they have the same personality, the same soul, answering the same ethical/political calling, performing the same tasks with the same religious sense of duty.
get me?
their uncanny similarities for me have to do with form and composition: loopy repetition, exact distance from dance floor, particular ways acoustic samples are used, epic textural dread, ambient entropy -- in the general feel of the music, the specific kind of vague atmosphere it evokes, and over all aesthetic treatment of the subject (which are themselves, as pointed out, very similar).
even their names are so scarily symmetrical when placed side by side... almost... conspiratorial.
also: the Shack and many others may have a few pieces which are reminiscent of Muslim Gauze, but others in their catalogs go in other directions.
while the entire output of Vatican Shadow so far, taken as a whole, bares intense resemblance to that of Muslim Gauze. How all the releases are only different facets of the same vision, how they are all related and part of a singular, maniacal Project, how no release EVER deviates from The Project they have obsessively set out to do.
In the very prolific fashion they churn out the vast bodies of work, which has no beginning and can never be finished... they have the same personality, the same soul, answering the same ethical/political calling, performing the same tasks with the same religious sense of duty.
get me?
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I'd say it's just indicative of the fact he works primarily as a Noise guy, quite a few have this pretty direct way of releasing where it feels like each release is chipping away at something rather than just delivering the final finished and archived piece. I find it quite refreshing, if a little hard to keep up with.
It'd be hard to deny the influence of Muslimgauze on VS though, I mean his Boomkat sponsored label website is awash with stuff about him early on.
oh wow i had no idea about this. i thought it was just a freaky unlikely and insane coincidence!
Martin D
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Isn't it the same as everyone saying that early dubstep producers must have been influenced by Scorn, when in fact none of them had even heard a track by him? The composition isn't anything like MG, you may be "hearing it" but technically it's nothing like at all but...who cares!
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