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There was also that time I spoke to two very jolly Roma beggars in Luxembourg who told me they were doing a weekly commute by plane from Bucharest.
Nationalism, immigration and racism in the EU
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Mr. Tea
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@yyaldrin I never said the EU was any kind of heaven, socialist or otherwise. But it seems you think a socialist heaven could be achieved, if only the main impediment to it (namely, the EU) could be removed. But suppose the EU were to vanish tomorrow: what would be the consequence of this for Hungarian immigrants living in substandard housing in Germany? Would they suddenly get nice, clean, dry, affordable apartments to live in? Obviously not. At best nothing would change for them; at worst, the abolition of freedom-of-movement laws would mean their immediate repatriation to Hungary, where conditions are presumably worse, because why else would they be in Germany in the first place?
The problems you're describing are obviously real, but they existed long before the EU came into being, they exist within the EU (and everywhere else) independently of the EU, and they'd still exist if you got your wish and the evil fascist EU were abolished.
I can tell you for certain, they're still here in the UK, which is outside the EU. In fact they're getting worse all the time, for immigrants and everyone else.
The problems you're describing are obviously real, but they existed long before the EU came into being, they exist within the EU (and everywhere else) independently of the EU, and they'd still exist if you got your wish and the evil fascist EU were abolished.
I can tell you for certain, they're still here in the UK, which is outside the EU. In fact they're getting worse all the time, for immigrants and everyone else.
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Mr. Tea
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So maybe we should, let's say, reintroduce bursaries for nursing students, perhaps abolish tuition fees altogether, and pay for all this with a big hike in the top income tax bracket?
We'll make a lefty of you yet!
Mr. Tea
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Mr. Tea
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You know what, please disregard everything I've ever said about Brexit or the EU. It's clear we had a lucky escape.
www.walesonline.co.uk
Europe to ban flavouring of UK favourite crisp
There are fears over links to cancer
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Did you know a sum equivalent to the entire revenue of the Netherland's natural gas industry since the 1960s has been spent on welfare for immigrants? No more gas industry in the Netherlands due to "reasons", guess they all have to go back.
The landmark study, entitled “Borderless Welfare State: The Consequences of Immigration on Public Finances,” shows that net costs of immigration to the Dutch public sector over the period 1995-2019 were an astounding €400 billion, averaging €17 billion a year, with a peak of €32 billion in 2016 due to the 2015 “refugee crisis.”
The landmark study, entitled “Borderless Welfare State: The Consequences of Immigration on Public Finances,” shows that net costs of immigration to the Dutch public sector over the period 1995-2019 were an astounding €400 billion, averaging €17 billion a year, with a peak of €32 billion in 2016 due to the 2015 “refugee crisis.”
mixed_biscuits
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Consultants are paid enough as it is, and if junior doctors want more money now then this can be taken from reductions in their future salary.
Doctoring is a high status profession not short of wannabes, many of whom would be able to fund much if not all of the tuition; the problem is that medical school places are artificially constrained.
I would pay for nurses by fining Spotify £1billion for cultural genocide.
mixed_biscuits
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EU is the cancer, amirite?You know what, please disregard everything I've ever said about Brexit or the EU. It's clear we had a lucky escape.
Europe to ban flavouring of UK favourite crisp
There are fears over links to cancer
Mr. Tea
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Durr.
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Anyone else read the head of the IMF claiming the US economy was made more competitive by an immigration surge keeping wages down?
Eden had a good post responding to this issue a few years back -
And here's a recent piece in the FT on Europe outsourcing its border security to countries like Tunisia and what's being done to people under the current system -
Eden had a good post responding to this issue a few years back -
John Michael Greer on brexit
He hasn't demonstrated that. Or at least, you have not yet replicated any such demonstration.
www.dissensus.com
And here's a recent piece in the FT on Europe outsourcing its border security to countries like Tunisia and what's being done to people under the current system -
yyaldrin
in je ogen waait de wind
why is john eden not with us any more who bullied him away?
Mr. Tea
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That sucks, but the EU doesn't dictate Portugal's laws about policing demonstrations or how its police have to interpret or implement those laws, does it?
Stuff like this happens in the UK all the time, and we're no longer in the EU, so it clearly has nothing to do with the EU as such.
yyaldrin
in je ogen waait de wind
it's just ironic to me that that woman, elite nazi nobility of germany, heir of the biggest slave owner of the usa, dares say something about other countries while germany is a repressive police state itself where even posting something as harmless and peaceful such as "palestina will be free" will have your house raided by heavily armed police forces.
Mr. Tea
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For fuck's sake, how is she "Nazi nobility"? I've just looked up her family and her dad was all of three years old when Hitler came to power. Wikipedia says her grandfather was a psychologist, with no mention of any connection to Nazis.
And whoever her ancestors were, she can't help that, can she? All this guit-by-association stuff just sounds a bit hysterical.