k-punk said:(Disagree with mms about the Jam tho... even tho I obv agree that the post-Jam Weller is a culture criminal).
Omaar said:The style council did a few good numbers, I reckon.
Check out this Guardian article about the phenomenon.k-punk said:An 'award-today, gone tomorrow' band, like Gomez. I fully expect them to win 17 Brits, all the NME awards and the Mercury Music Prize before finding their natural home, the boot of a car on a Sunday morning, on sale for 10p.
simon silverdollar said:yeah the jam were wonderful: so sharp, in every way.
Omaar said:The style council did a few good numbers, I reckon.
mpc said:i'd like to finish off this thread by saying that bloc party are the best band of the last 7 years.
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the futureheads also have about 4 good songs, which is more than the fall ever managed.
The Futureheads more good songs than The Fall? Bloc Party the best band of the seven years?
Imagine living in a world where that were true.
Would it really be worth carrying on?
The effect these bands have is more social than aesthetic:
1. To convince students (who, as Simon Frith has rightly observed, are THE most conservative, reactionary and nostalgic consumers of pop in British society) of the innate superiority of their own rockist values.
2. To lower expectations about what pop - and ultimately life - can be. 'Want something that is more than a tired, microwave-reheated, low-grade simulation of the past? Forget it, it's the best you can hope for....' 'Thought Pop could be about more than over-hyped rockist posterboys living out the outdated fantasies of record company execs, PR people and journalists? Well, think again....'
But trust me, the only people who will be concerned about Futureheads, Bloc Party, Razorlight, Athlete (add other Indie losers to taste) in five years, never mind about twenty, will be the managers of landfill sites.
mpc said:Snobbery exists in all areas of life. By snobbery I mean, any method of judging someone or something whereby you latch on to one or two features about them/it, and use these to come to a definitive, immovable judgement. In intellectual matters, the snob will often take the external features of a work as a guide to its value.
But of course this kind of widespread pompous relativism is its own form of judgementalism.... Why are non-definitive, movable non-judgements better than the reverse?
If subscribing to the obvious truth that Futureheads are unspeakable trash makes me a snob, then, fine. It's better than going along with whatever the PRs-that-be have decided is the latest thing...
[/QUOTE]If you can even remember them, in five years, you'll probably agree then. But I suppose that is what it is to make non-definitive, movable non-judgements.