beiser

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They should move to the country there's a house down the street near a creek, 2BR for $50k and ready to move in (no work needed). Plus the KwikMart is hiring. Mortgage will be about $150 a month; if you work parttime at the gas station for minimum wage, you still got cash left over.
you're playing the dumbass today aren't you

if you're working part time at the gas station you don't get health insurance and are on the hook for an additional 160/mo in health insurance premiums. add $200 for food, whatever car maintenence costs, and your $942.50 (pre-tax) doesn't look so rich. if the kwikmart stops giving you hours, or you realize that your shit house is full of black mold, well, sounds like you're just fucked.

"real wages stopped rising in 1972" is like a cliche at this point but jesus, not that hard to see why people would get blackpilled by a loss of any belief in the future. keep in mind that it's impossible to simultaneously hold that stagnation causes deaths of despair and that nobody cares about absolute changes in wealth, only relative ones.
 

beiser

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@Linebaugh you're gonna leave the epic Henry George comment hangin and respond to my bullshit instead?

I don't necessarily disagree, but listen for a sec to Trump voters. They aren't actually asking for handouts. That's not what they're after. Maybe they've been hoodwinked by the bad orange man and if they had Medicare For All, they'd stop ODing on fentanyl. I'm a little skeptical. Unfortunately, there isn't an obvious way to get them what they want, which seems like a combination of respect, status, economic relevance, and slowing social change.
these were the same folks who started saying that the virus didn't exist because they realized the cash for their mortgage was drying up. they're not complete idiots, they're just laser-focused on retaining a pretense of dignity, at any cost. There's a reason medicare for all polls well; if anything, they just seem to lack faith in the state's willingness to execute on it in a way that doesn't make things even worse.
 

sus

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if you're working part time at the gas station you don't get health insurance and are on the hook for an additional 160/mo in health insurance premiums. add $200 for food, whatever car maintenence costs, and your $942.50 (pre-tax) doesn't look so rich. if the kwikmart stops giving you hours, or you realize that your shit house is full of black mold, well, sounds like you're just fucked.

Who needs healthcare? Just stay healthy like me.
you're playing the dumbass today aren't you

Yes
 

luka

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It's not that awkward though it's more opening up and becoming natural and enthusiastic after discovering common ground and safety
 

beiser

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Nothing but good things to say about Sam Altman. I hear rumors he's a bit of a Georgist, actually.
 
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sus

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I've liked the limited Altman interviews I've read
He's definitely my second-favorite Altman after Rob
But I've heard some folks decry him as just a manager—the failed founder who switched to mgmt
Actually that comes from my PM at work
 
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