Rap 2016

Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Well, I did think twice about posting about it here. It's a sideshow thing really but obviously Simon and his writing has a connection to this forum and so I thought it might be of interest.
 
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CrowleyHead

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Corpsey said:
Well, I did think twice about posting about it here. It's a sideshow thing really but obviously Simon and his writing has a connection to this forum and so I thought it might be of interest.
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Oh I mean it's a good conversation topic by all means, just weird that say you posting the YG album gets less reactions than this topic I suppose.
 
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rubberdingyrapids

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YG album is one of the best things ive heard this year, rap-wise. hes not much of a personality really, but i give him credit for doing songs about black/brown unity, and the song about donald trump (how can you not like a song with a chorus that goes FUCK DONALD TRUMP!). but, the best thing about the album, without getting all reynoldsy, is the beats (i actually DO think they are cutting edge and state of the art etc lol). it doesnt have that authority that MKL had, cos mustard isnt there, but the guys he replaced him with i think are still pretty great at nu-classic-west coast minimalism, even if they have the air of 2nd tierers (but i once liked 2nd tier dr dre producers too, so whats the difference). they make old samples ive heard a million times sound like 2016.

do any of you read/rate the full clip rap reviews column on the quietus? i wonder how many hits it gets.
 
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Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Yeah, properly looking forward to Ka and Roc Marci's albums this year. Sremmlife 2 also.

New 21 Savage tape produced entirely by Metro Boomin

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Who does 21 Savage remind me of? That kind of rapping where it's barely even bothered enough to be rapping. Beats are grimey on this.

I need to listen to YG's album again and give Schoolboy Q a shot also.
 
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luka

luka

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this is old but a)its beautiful and makes everything on this thread look like trolling and
b)its new to me
c)SHEEK LOUCH
 
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rubberdingyrapids

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that ones alright. depends if you like mellower wu or prefer to hear ghostface-on-'run' kind of stuff.

i dont really like rap music anymore, but after my most recent spotify listening, i thought schoolboy q was quite unlikeable as a voice/personality, araabmuzik seems to be making big glossy EDM now, clams casino's 32 levels was good but just ended up a another producer compilation, and snoop's was the best of the lot. lots of weird funk beats.
 
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rubberdingyrapids

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i want to like the schoolboy q album but find his voice grating. like hes an exaggeration. sort of the danny brown effect but less funny/animated, just a bit one dimensional and devoid/blunt as a persona. theres something thoroughly mediocre about him. hes like the u god to kendrick's raekwon. will prob change my mind once i hear it a few more times.

*simon reynolds once mentioned schoolboy q*

(random SR reference as i know this gets the people going)
 
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rubberdingyrapids

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http://thequietus.com/articles/2064...pe-gucci-mane-schoolboy-q-metro-boomin-review

at some point i will attempt to listen to some of these albums reviewed in the link above, but, so far, im not feeling encouraged.
i like the idea of a guy being ultra hardcore, nihilistic, just a piece of shit in modern rap, but 21 savage has no gravitas to my ears. its hardly MOP or necro.

feeling the new kanye/gucci song champion.
 
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Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I don't mind 21 Savage as a rapper. His persona is sociopathic, of course, but what else is new?

Metro's production is, as you'd have predicted, the real draw. The production actually reminded me of 'Hell on Earth' era Mobb Deep - these very compact, often heavily filtered loops.

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sadmanbarty

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One of the producers Yyaldrin posted on the non-english rap thread. The rest is good, but it's more conventional lethargic cloud rap, which I think I'm more susceptible to than you lot.

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sadmanbarty

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Apparently reynolds book on glam rock is going to have a final chapter that talks about hip hop and some other stuff. Young thug springs to mind. Nikki minaj maybe? Anyway, it's an interesting line to draw.
 
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rubberdingyrapids

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does anyone in this thread actually read writers who write about rap?

andre3000 prob more important to young thug than bowie.
and prince more important to dre3000 than bowie.
and little richard and hendrix more important to prince than bowie.

(sounding exclusionist and separatist here i know, obv i know prince knew about bowie, but i think he was more of a general, cultural influence absorbed through osmosis rather than prince being a morrissey-like fan.)

(though in spite of all that, i imagine SR isnt drawing lines of influence, than just saying that rappers are more glam than most rockers today, or that the spirit/look of glam is there in rappers, as far as popular musicians today)
 
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Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Re: Young Thug, didn't that whole skinny jeans phenomenon predate Thug slightly? Seem to remember Wiz Kalifah going all glam first, but maybe I've got that mixed up? Kanye (as per) must have had something to do with that, right?

I don't really read any writers on rap anymore, but I noticed earlier today that Noz wrote a piece for FADER on Gucci post-release: http://www.thefader.com/2016/07/28/gucci-mane-cover-story-interview-everybody-looking

I would welcome any recommendations re: writers/critics on rap.
 
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CrowleyHead

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Would skinny jeans really qualify as 'glam'? They were longtime called 'rockstar swag' to seperate from the perception of rap aesthetics being baggy 'hood gear' but whatever this discussion isn't going to land where it needs to here in Reynolds hands, not to return to the last time we brought him up with rap, he's just not capable at all.
 
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rubberdingyrapids

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CrowleyHead said:
Would skinny jeans really qualify as 'glam'? They were longtime called 'rockstar swag' to seperate from the perception of rap aesthetics being baggy 'hood gear' but whatever this discussion isn't going to land where it needs to here in Reynolds hands, not to return to the last time we brought him up with rap, he's just not capable at all.
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skinny jeans arent really what i think of when i think of glam style.
skinny jeans are more up there with people wearing ramones t shirts and suit blazers.

maybe SR just saw thug wear a skirt and thought 'aha!' (fair enough)
am interested to see who else he cites, though not sure i really buy it, unless you just mean some sort of gender-construct-questioning+general exuberance = glam, in which case, maybe you could throw minaj and a few others in there too. maybe camron and his pink panther phase will get a shout too.

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