Extinction Rebellion

[ome]

well, what they're doing is obviously political..

to you it’s obviously political. not to the people who wrote and follow xr’s values.

As a de-escalator i have had countless conversations that go like this:
public:”you have got this all wrong, this is such an important issue, and you are making it worse you idiots, what you are doing will never work it’s so annoying and wrong”
me: “thank-you for (silent:now) caring, would you like a vegan percy pig?”

do you get it... Any party that aligns it’s self with xr must be mad, the last thing it’s doing is wining votes.

come join us on the streets as public, lots of actions all week. peeps need some moral support. it’s revolting out here.

 

[ome]

It's interesting that they take their lead from business management books.

grrr hippy-wigs
yes many of the tools xr use are clearly from management technology. But in this case it is clear that the wet-ware tech originated from health / well-being intention for mainly psychotherapeutic practice. Corporate sock suckers have sold it out. However i am grateful for forking the work back to its original intention, and the expensive version revisions done by the self-serving but high IQ management consultants.

i hear parliament sq has just been taken.. edit: nope, not today.

 

[baboon2004]

to you it’s obviously political. not to the people who wrote and follow xr’s values.

As a de-escalator i have had countless conversations that go like this:
public:”you have got this all wrong, this is such an important issue, and you are making it worse you idiots, what you are doing will never work it’s so annoying and wrong”
me: “thank-you for (silent:now) caring, would you like a vegan percy pig?”

do you get it... Any party that aligns it’s self with xr must be mad, the last thing it’s doing is wining votes.

come join us on the streets as public, lots of actions all week. peeps need some moral support. it’s revolting out here.

Thanks for reply. I wd say it is political regardless of what XR members say, as it directly engages with power structures. There is a long history of British ppl having an aversion to anything being denoted as political - not entirely sure why, worth thinking about.

Your experience is really interesting. I think those reactions can coexist with a situation where ppl who never talked about protest positively ever, are saying that xr is acrually ok. Thats what I noticed in a space that's far from the on the ground experience you had.

Will see if there's anything going on near me and see what I might do.

 

[john eden]

I think what's interesting is that there are people within XR pushing it in different directions. I was delighted to see this on the way to work:

And even with the cop stuff you have this:

 

[luka]

Corpsey was saying to me today that he hates extinction rebellion people, a burning white hot rage, that they disgust him. This is quite a common reaction isn't it? I find myself feeling antagonised by hippies, wanting to prod them and antagonise them until they show a bit of life and spirit. Corpse said they should wear smart clothes if they want to be taken seriously but I'm not sure I can agree with that

 

[john eden]

I think there are different kinds of hating them, on a sliding scale:

1. climate change is bollocks and these people are all hippies
2. climate change is a thing but I have to get to work and all these hippies are in the way and how the fuck can they do that when I would be sacked if I skipped a day
3. climate change is a thing but they are doing the protests wrong
4. climate change is a thing and I am usually up for a bit of protest but fucking hell the state of this.

One problem is that the way that they have composed themselves is very white and middle class - and actually the form of protest (tents, being there for a long time, being up for getting nicked) reeks of a privilege that even I don't have.

 

[luka]

There's a lot of white middle class people in this country I suppose. If you're looking at attracting large numbers of people then you'd obviously be mad to talk about class war or to frame it politically at all. You can see where they're coming from. W

 

[IdleRich]

Everyone sharing this video of the broccoli getting nicked. It's funny and everything but what did he actually do that was against the law? I don't get it. On the face of it it looks pretty scary.

 

[luka]

Fair play to them. Of course, ignoramuses like me are just seeing photos of them doing yoga in their tye-dye clothes in the Metro and kneejerking 'get a job/have a shower' and so on. Which is a shame. But I suppose it's about disrupting the normies not winning them over.

It's good to talk about this response I think. Corpsey really really hates them. Just the way they look infuriates him.

 

[luka]

What Corpsey is saying, and it's a good argument, is that this movement is nowhere near middle class enough

 

[john eden]

What Corpsey is saying, and it's a good argument, is that this movement is nowhere near middle class enough

A sort of anti-Marxism.

 

[luka]

His argument is that under climate change conditions the middle class is the revolutionary class and no mass movement which doesn't radicalise the middle class can hope to make any headway. "The proles are a sideshow' as he put it.

 

[luka]

He says XR recognise this but are still too plagued by crusties, hippies, degenerates and drug addicts

 

[luka]

They need to recruit radio four women's hour presenters, question time hosts, Sandi Tovsvig

 

[john eden]

He says XR recognise this but are still too plagued by crusties, hippies, degenerates and drug addicts

He’s a bold lad. Shades of Ballard there too. Dissensus’ finest new theorist.

 

[versh]

Police ban Extinction Rebellion protests from whole of London

Police have banned Extinction Rebellion protests from continuing anywhere in London, as they moved in almost without warning to clear protesters who remained at the movement’s camp in Trafalgar Square.

The Metropolitan police issued a revised section 14 order on Monday night that said “any assembly linked to the Extinction Rebellion ‘Autumn Uprising’ ... must now cease their protests within London (MPS and City of London Police Areas)” by 9pm.

Almost immediately, officers moved into Trafalgar Square and demanded that protesters remove their tents. Most XR activists staying at the site had already decamped to Vauxhall Pleasure Gardens, south of the river, and only a few dozen tents, along with gazebos and other infrastructure, remained on the square.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ction-rebellion-protests-from-whole-of-london

 

[ome]

For those not aware Ellie Chowns, a MEP and activist, was arrested tonight in TS for questioning officers on how they had justified canceling our democratic rights to peaceful protest across an entire metropolis. It seems their only answer was to cart her off...

Link here, for a video she posted just before she was arrested. Please share as this is a true legal and moral outrage:

 

[ome]

i did a 14h stint there yesterday 🥰

I think what's interesting is that there are people within XR pushing it in different directions. I was delighted to see this on the way to work:

And even with the cop stuff you have this:

 

[luka]

One what do you think about corpseys theory of the middle class revolt?

 

[john eden]

i did a 14h stint there yesterday 🥰

Respect is due.