Alien (1979)

[dilbert1]

Alright, Body Snatchers was awesome, just brutal. Loved it even as it exhausted me. But jesus @sus The Abyss my girl and I agreed was just about the most low IQ expensive hunk of shit we’ve ever seen. Dripping with the most pathetic nihilistic misanthropic ideology, dressed up in the phoniest humanism. An impressively gargantuan feat of small-mindedness. And yes we watched the three-hour special edition version. Totally laughable film if it weren’t for its pernicious stupidity. Call me what you will, this and the Avatar films aren’t paragons of aesthetic imagination, they’re well-oiled propaganda machines for the liberal status quo. What a thoroughly foolish mind Cameron is, at least Terminator transcended this sort of escapist self-flagellating nonsense. The worst kind of boneheaded sci-fi. That film made me very upset as you can see

 

[sus]

This is hilarious

 

[sus]

This is so funny

 

[sus]

Dilbert and his girl sat down to have a very special evening together, he says, I've gotten a recommendation from trusted friends, this one's gonna be brilliant. Don't worry it's three hours all the deleted scenes left in but it's gonna be great. You're gonna love it. And they sit down and it's a steaming pile, there's a slow dawning horror at what theyve embarked on

 

[sus]

@dilbert1 Did she bury her face in you hide her eyes when the rat drowns? Girls hate seeing animals in pain

 

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I still haven't seen The Abyss.

 

[sus]

What was the worst scene at what point did you lose all faith

 

[sus]

When did it break your will entirely

 

[sus]

I still haven't seen The Abyss.

I have no clue whether its good I only watch movies symptomatically, in terms of their symbolic structure

 

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I have no clue whether its good I only watch movies symptomatically, in terms of their symbolic structure

This bodes well for Alien: Covenant.

 

[dilbert1]

Covenant is good!

 

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Covenant is good!

I've a soft spot for it. The problem with the two later Scott ones for me's the script. They both look and sound great and tackle interesting ideas, but the human characters are poorly written. They either make ridiculous decisions for the sake of progressing the plot or they're completely generic, often both.

Also, the alien really didn't need explaining in the first place. The mystery of the original's its strongest quality. The absolute peak of the entire series is the stretch from when they receive the distress signal to Hurt discovering the eggs. You can't beat that. No backstory you can come up with will have the same power as simply not knowing.

 

[dilbert1]

I’ll write more later but it never broke our will, compelling enough in its idiocy to force us on to see what kind of bow it would ultimately be wrapped in. Entirely predictable with its feel-good ending but devil’s in the details of course

 

[dilbert1]

Trying to use Danny McBride as comic relief felt half-hearted and unnecessary from what I remember too. But as long as they keep the Weyland or Creator lore central I’ll keep coming back for more in the future

 

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Did you catch the cameo at the beginning of Snatchers?

 

[dilbert1]

I still haven't seen The Abyss.

I’d wholeheartedly recommend you watch it

 

[dilbert1]

@0bleak Never saw the original so no but I looked it up!

 

[dilbert1]

I’d wholeheartedly recommend you watch it

In fact everyone here should watch it @thirdform too so we can add to this thorough discussion and see where everyone stands

 

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@0bleak Never saw the original so no but I looked it up!

I don't mean the cameo near the middle, but at the very beginning.

 

[dilbert1]

Nope