dematerialisation in literature
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yeah its low level dopamine rewards innit. whereas what craner is doing is truly admirable because it will pay dividends for years to come. whereas me now, typing this, the reward is very ephemeral
versh
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Yeah, this is just the internet. It rewards you for having an opinion so you're encouraged to have an opinion on everything. You can see it all the time on Reddit. Someone will make a thread like "Paramedics, what's the craziest thing you've seen whilst at work?" and basically every response will be someone like "Not a paramedic, but my sister's husband is and he... ".
Corpsey
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It's boring to say it but the Internet has changed our minds.
I was going to say "Destroyed" but that supposes that there's something inherently superior about the old way of thinking. Who's to say that? Maybe people are much better at thinking in a different way now.
But novels belong to a bygone world.
I was going to say "Destroyed" but that supposes that there's something inherently superior about the old way of thinking. Who's to say that? Maybe people are much better at thinking in a different way now.
But novels belong to a bygone world.
IdleRich
IdleRich
It's interesting that when we were growing up and for some time before the novel was seen as an important and worthy art-form that we were supposed to engage with to be a good person. But early on it was seen as a kind of childish diversion for wasters - I reckon at one time it was like the GTA of its day. Didn't one king try to bang novels cos people weren't spending enough time on bow and arrow practice or something?
but yeah i think you are definitely right rich.
unrelated, but on a similar tip, in the portico library in manchester (=old victorian members library, now a sort of gents club that does events and nice cakes), the biggest category of stuff was called 'polite literature' which was basically as it sounds ie would not offend your sensibilities and was suitable to take home. presumably the other categories (cant remember what they were, but. iguess science and history), were not considered polite
unrelated, but on a similar tip, in the portico library in manchester (=old victorian members library, now a sort of gents club that does events and nice cakes), the biggest category of stuff was called 'polite literature' which was basically as it sounds ie would not offend your sensibilities and was suitable to take home. presumably the other categories (cant remember what they were, but. iguess science and history), were not considered polite
Corpsey
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I wonder if a new group of authors will come along at some point and make novels cool again?
All rebellious and shocking. Hard to imagine what would shock anyone anymore, though. I guess that's why the alt-right have monopolised it, cos the shocking thing now is to reject liberalism/progressivism.
All rebellious and shocking. Hard to imagine what would shock anyone anymore, though. I guess that's why the alt-right have monopolised it, cos the shocking thing now is to reject liberalism/progressivism.
luka
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On Sunday afternoon, 14th October 2018, Out To Lunch performed Vegetable Empire, a long poem issued as a pamphlet by Luke Davis, with Splash'n'Klang...
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RELINQUISH THE EARTH SUIT. DEMATERIALISATION IS IN PROGRESS.
luka
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“Don't listen to Hassan i Sabbah," they will tell you. "He wants to take your body and all pleasures of the body away from you. Listen to us. We are serving The Garden of Delights Immortality Cosmic Consciousness The Best Ever In Drug Kicks. And love love love in slop buckets. How does that sound to you boys? Better than Hassan i Sabbah and his cold windy bodiless rock? Right?"
At the immediate risk of finding myself the most unpopular character of all fiction—and history is fiction—I must say this:
"Bring together state of news—Inquire onward from state to doer—Who monopolized Immortality? Who monopolized Cosmic Consciousness? Who monopolized Love Sex and Dream? Who monopolized Life Time and Fortune? Who took from you what is yours? Now they will give it all back? Did they ever give anything away for nothing? Did they ever give any more than they had to give? Did they not always take back what they gave when possible and it always was? Listen: Their Garden Of Delights is a terminal sewer—I have been at some pains to map this area of terminal sewage in the so called pornographic sections of Naked Lunch and Soft Machine—Their Immortality Cosmic Consciousness and Love is second-run grade-B shit—Their drugs are poison designed to beam in Orgasm Death and Nova Ovens—Stay out of the Garden of Delights—It is a man-eating trap that ends in green goo—Throw back their ersatz Immortality—It will fall apart before you can get out of The Big Store—Flush their drug kicks down the drain—They are poisoning and monopolizing the hallucinogen drugs—learn to make it without any chemical corn—All that they offer is a screen to cover retreat from the colony they have so disgracefully mismanaged. To cover travel arrangements so they will never have to pay the constituents they have betrayed and sold out. Once these arrangements are complete they will blow the place up behind them.”
― William S. Burroughs, Nova Express
At the immediate risk of finding myself the most unpopular character of all fiction—and history is fiction—I must say this:
"Bring together state of news—Inquire onward from state to doer—Who monopolized Immortality? Who monopolized Cosmic Consciousness? Who monopolized Love Sex and Dream? Who monopolized Life Time and Fortune? Who took from you what is yours? Now they will give it all back? Did they ever give anything away for nothing? Did they ever give any more than they had to give? Did they not always take back what they gave when possible and it always was? Listen: Their Garden Of Delights is a terminal sewer—I have been at some pains to map this area of terminal sewage in the so called pornographic sections of Naked Lunch and Soft Machine—Their Immortality Cosmic Consciousness and Love is second-run grade-B shit—Their drugs are poison designed to beam in Orgasm Death and Nova Ovens—Stay out of the Garden of Delights—It is a man-eating trap that ends in green goo—Throw back their ersatz Immortality—It will fall apart before you can get out of The Big Store—Flush their drug kicks down the drain—They are poisoning and monopolizing the hallucinogen drugs—learn to make it without any chemical corn—All that they offer is a screen to cover retreat from the colony they have so disgracefully mismanaged. To cover travel arrangements so they will never have to pay the constituents they have betrayed and sold out. Once these arrangements are complete they will blow the place up behind them.”
― William S. Burroughs, Nova Express
luka
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puppets of the scripts. jumping jellybeans.
the planes fracture. become multiple. the sky
is no longer a continuous integrated space
birds disappear, fly into adjacent dimensions,
as if words fell through
a / slit
in the page.
the sugar glider.
green light behind the eyelids
soar through
that other space. what wizard wheeze
what wonder-working, what whirling, wizard work!
the planes fracture. become multiple. the sky
is no longer a continuous integrated space
birds disappear, fly into adjacent dimensions,
as if words fell through
a / slit
in the page.
the sugar glider.
green light behind the eyelids
soar through
that other space. what wizard wheeze
what wonder-working, what whirling, wizard work!