Election 2020
IdleRich
IdleRich
I don't like all the language that's crept up around this. "Terrorists", "coup", "darkest day since 9/11", "riot" (LOL), "unprecedented", "sedition", "treason", etc. It was a bunch of yahoos milling around, probably more aggro at a Palace match.
I don't know why the Left assumes the consequent, inevitable 'domestic terror' crackdown to arise from this farce won't be applied to them, online and off.
I don't know why the Left assumes the consequent, inevitable 'domestic terror' crackdown to arise from this farce won't be applied to them, online and off.
Let's see for ourselves
john eden
male pale and stale
It’s not weird that there weren’t many arrests on the day. Same thing happened at the poll tax riots and indeed most riots in the UK afaik. That’s because the priority on the day for the cops is (1) staying safe and (2) keeping order.
Making loads of arrests is time consuming and also escalates the situation. Plus they know CCTV & a mugshot gallery in the media will be their friend.
Making loads of arrests is time consuming and also escalates the situation. Plus they know CCTV & a mugshot gallery in the media will be their friend.
sufi
lala
https://theresistance.video/watch?id=5ff6857e00bac0328da8e888 via infowars apparently?
astonishing scenes
IdleRich
IdleRich
It was definitely nothing like Sept 11th, I remember being utterly gobsmacked when I saw that. Sure they are both big political events that we saw unroll in real time, but something with five accidental deaths is not to be compared with the deliberate murder of 2000 people. I mean, maybe if you are American and you are somehow reduced to tears by seeing people desecrating the holy place it ratchets up a few notches, but in at least one major respect it's not close to being the same.
I don't underestimate the fall-out from this, the divides that are exacerbated, the end of Trump Republicans or the growth of a new movement etc But it's simply not the same kind of thing.
How the deaths of thousands every day from covid fits into that scale and how one processes that I dunno though. Different scale altogether somehow it feels.
OK, am a bit confused.
By the way, I'm not sticking up for the Trump lot. Though I agree with them that government offices shouldn't be any more inaccessible than a launderette, and I hope whichever kid reportedly lit up a joint in Pelosi's office gets off scot free (come on, we'd all love to have done it) (well not me, I don't smoke hippy drugs - would have pissed in her filing cabinet though).
I'm not sure what you mean with the vids HMGovt and Sufi? I wouldn't dispute that it wasn't peaceful. But I still think the media narrative is way OTT for what actually happened.
During the Poll Tax campaign (particularly in Scotland), people properly stormed into council offices, and with no pretense at polite chat with the cops - I'm not convinced that kind of action won't be necessary in the post-COVID future. So it kinda concerns me that this disorganised, overhyped event is being pushed as the most sickening thing to happen since yadda yadda - as if anything a bit more 'spicy' won't convince the general public that it's necessary to send in the marksmen.
(ETA also, for all the right wing Twitter accounts gone missing this weekend, have noticed quite a few anarcho accounts nuked too).
By the way, I'm not sticking up for the Trump lot. Though I agree with them that government offices shouldn't be any more inaccessible than a launderette, and I hope whichever kid reportedly lit up a joint in Pelosi's office gets off scot free (come on, we'd all love to have done it) (well not me, I don't smoke hippy drugs - would have pissed in her filing cabinet though).
I'm not sure what you mean with the vids HMGovt and Sufi? I wouldn't dispute that it wasn't peaceful. But I still think the media narrative is way OTT for what actually happened.
During the Poll Tax campaign (particularly in Scotland), people properly stormed into council offices, and with no pretense at polite chat with the cops - I'm not convinced that kind of action won't be necessary in the post-COVID future. So it kinda concerns me that this disorganised, overhyped event is being pushed as the most sickening thing to happen since yadda yadda - as if anything a bit more 'spicy' won't convince the general public that it's necessary to send in the marksmen.
(ETA also, for all the right wing Twitter accounts gone missing this weekend, have noticed quite a few anarcho accounts nuked too).
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sufi
lala
a lot of manufactured outrage and, as luke points out, a spectacular to isolate trump. but there are a lot of interests at play
but also amazing to see the genuine revolutionary fervour, albeit of course for an execrable cause
and the distinct feeling of a set up, a performance
sufi
lala
fascinating to watch the osint exposing the different characters, but at the same time the makings of a generation of rightist activism, heroes, commanders and martyrs are being made
ashlee reminds me of neda in the 2009 iranian demos, and indeed i think there were iranian groups among the trumpists
ashlee reminds me of neda in the 2009 iranian demos, and indeed i think there were iranian groups among the trumpists
Leo
Well-known member
oh c'mon. absolutely domestic terrorism, straight up. storming the seat of the federal government, with the singlular intention of disrupting one the most fundamental aspects of democracy: the peaceful transfer of power. fuck all the 9/11, "darkest day" bullshit, no one cares about some dumbass story line from a few media outlets. don't get sucked into the bullshit, they may have been dimwits but that doesn't excuse what they did.