Borges - Labyrinths (1641)

[IdleRich]

Yes with Nabakov there is a clinical thing going on, he's a genius dissecting people, sometimes playing games. Does it follow that there is no discovery? I don't think so, I'd say the opposite is true.

 

[luka]

I don't mean for the reader I mean in the process of writing

 

[IdleRich]

Yeah that's how I took it.

 

[IdleRich]

Someone skillfully dissects something under a microscope, do they learn something?

 

[luka]

I know where you're coming from, it's just not my cup of tea, too cold blooded

 

[IdleRich]

Again there is the germ of truth in that criticism but I really think you should read some of these guys before dismissing them. You're in danger of being like that kid in the film whose Dad is a failed writer and he dismisses everyone as second-rate so the boy just copies his opinions and hasn't read anything. What film is that?

 

[luka]

You don't need to read more than a sentence of any given writer to know everything about them

 

[IdleRich]

The Squid and the Whale (is the film).

 

[IdleRich]

You don't need to read more than a sentence of any given writer to know everything about them

It's convenient for you to think that but it seems like more of a justification than an argument to me.,

 

[mvuent]

Sounds like a real life Invisible Cities. Any good pics?

all the illustrations are pretty boring, sorry. just standard diagrams of houses, castle ruins etc. you've probably done ketamine in more interesting locations than the ones it shows.

 

[luka]

It's convenient for you to think that but it seems like more of a justification than an argument to me.,

Not sure I'm that into arguing. Insults are alright sometimes, but not debating

 

[sus]

Foucault, The Order of Things

 

[IdleRich]

Not sure I'm that into arguing. Insults are alright sometimes, but not debating

Strangely I went to bed and read a bit of Orlando where she basically agreed with you completely (in fact went further) but it's still wrong.

 

[woops]

In my head it's aloof aristocratic disdainfully paring its fingernails

This is funny cos your actually (mis)quoting Nabokov's own description of a good style

 

[Mr. Tea]

You don't need to read more than a sentence of any given writer to know everything about them

Does "Bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk" tell you everything you need to know about Joyce?

It probably does, doesn't it?

 

[IdleRich]

Here are the passages from Virginia Woolf (It's sideways, sorry)






Basically Orlanda hangs around with Pope, Addington and Swift and, well, you can see, but the gist of it is you only have to read the passages she quotes and you know for certain that Addington would be polite and girly and marry faitfully, while Swift would be coarse and crazy and passionate and die in a madhouse.

 

[woops]

Not sure I'm that into arguing. Insults are alright sometimes, but not debating

this is just something you say when losing an argument, like saying "facts don't matter", just before insulting me

 

[luka]

These are lovely bits of writing everyone's assembled but let's not forget that this is the thread for Reading and Responding to Borges so let's not turn it into another scrapbook of quotations. You have to obey Thread-Leader and Thread-Monitor Mvuent. He set homework and the homework must be completed.

 

[luka]

Often a temptation to use a thread to say 'I know this thing about this thing' and then we proudly share our fact. This temptation should be resisted

 

[IdleRich]

Probably Robbe-Grillet is relevant though - there must be some reason Nabakov picked the same phrases to describe them.