IdleRich
IdleRich
I'm not a big one for R&B, in fact, more often than not I hate it. But @Leo posted in the Tune of The Day (Redux) thread that thing with someone reworking Mary J Blige on top of an almost ebm type beat and I loved it. I'm not asking people to do my work for me here (I am) but I'd love to hear more of this kinda bleepy robosoul type stuff which is almost like a cross between electro and r&b or ebm and r&b, or perhaps even acid - stuff I could mix into dark, heavy druggy electro (as discussed in the Drvg Cvltvre thread) to inject a surprising moment of FUN into a set.
When I ask these questions I have something quite elusive in mind, I know there is loads of house with a soulful vocal but I suppose I need more from r&b than just the vocal. Or maybe, with that MJB bootleg part of what I liked was the tension between the vocal not being meant to go with that beat. I dunno really, I think I'll know it when I hear it though, so, hit me with some bangers of this nature and I will be very grateful to you.
I seem to have it in my mind that there was one by Martyn Bootyspoon that fit the bill perfectly but I can't remember which track it was now....
When I ask these questions I have something quite elusive in mind, I know there is loads of house with a soulful vocal but I suppose I need more from r&b than just the vocal. Or maybe, with that MJB bootleg part of what I liked was the tension between the vocal not being meant to go with that beat. I dunno really, I think I'll know it when I hear it though, so, hit me with some bangers of this nature and I will be very grateful to you.
I seem to have it in my mind that there was one by Martyn Bootyspoon that fit the bill perfectly but I can't remember which track it was now....
Leo
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I'd love to know if there's stuff like that too. which leads to the question: why hasn't some good r&b vocalist gone into the studio with a bleepy/ebm producer and cut some track? kinda like when Gil Scott heron went into the studio with young producers for "I'm new here", or Bjork worked with Arca. I'd be first in line for, say, a Beyonce album produced by Paranoid London.
no it would be shit. ebm is stiff, regimented, ominous. That's what makes it great. that its so stiff it becomes funky inadvertently. rnb is sophisticated, sultry and polymorphous. EBM is not sloppy, but its simple and crude. rnb is more complex in that sense, though still not as complex as say classic soul or jazz funk, and the West African islamic music which nourished the blues.
maybe but the last thing I want in an rnb song is a four to the floor kickdrum. Otherwise sure the melodic content and pinging 80s arp synths of ebm could work.
IdleRich
IdleRich
Yeah that sounds like what I'm envisaging, not a four four kick so much.
IdleRich
IdleRich
See I don't know what that is...
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Timbaland?
rubberdingyrapids
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i dont totally get sault. i like wildfires well enough, and the singing is great, but it often sounds a bit like its from the early or mid 90s, just that without using breakbeat samples, theyre doing it 'organically' in that modern production sense where everything sounds digitally rendered lush and warm etc. like a cousin of adrian younge, who i like in places for all his great period details, but sault actually seems a bit middlebrow i think.
Leo
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not an r&b track, just r&b vocals, over electro/bleepy beats. listen to the mary k Blige edit I posted earlier (below) that rich is using as a reference.
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