Plato's Cave

[sufi]

Plato's cave needs its own thread

 

[sufi]

Plato's cave needs its own thread

or did we do one already?

 

[sufi]

The rapid replacement of papyrus rolls by the bound codices we know as books, complete by the fourth century AD, meant that works out of step with contemporary tastes or needs disappeared forever: papyrus is fragile and decays in damp climates, and while papyri survive in their tens of thousands in Egypt, almost none of them is Latin. The next bottleneck was the Carolingian renaissance. After several centuries during which few texts were copied, Charlemagne’s scholars and scribes transformed caches of old manuscripts into magnificent new codices. They replaced the gorgeous but difficult uncials and half-uncials of late antiquity, and the crabbed and ugly minuscule scripts of the earliest Middle Ages, with a sleek and limpid Caroline minuscule that anyone can read today after a few minutes’ practice. More than two-thirds of the ancient Latin literature we have today was in circulation under Charlemagne’s heirs in the ninth century, and not much that enjoyed a Carolingian revival was subsequently lost.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v43/n16/michael-kulikowski/kings-and-kinglets

 

[version]

What does this have to do with Plato's Cave?

 

[sufi]

What does this have to do with Plato's Cave?

how the move to the internet is a bottleneck in the same way as moving from papyrus to books, filtering everything like plato's cave (just to mix up those metaphors), does that make sense?

 

[sufi]

I was enjoying this recent chatty listicle https://www.pamelapaul.com/books/100-things-weve-lost-to-the-internet/

 

[sufi]

I was enjoying this recent chatty listicle https://www.pamelapaul.com/books/100-things-weve-lost-to-the-internet/

listicle is to article, i suppose, but what do you call a book that is a list?

1 ] Boredom
2 ] The Period
3 ] The Know-It-All
4 ] Getting Lost
5 ] Losing Your Ticket
6 ] The Meet-Cute
7 ] Bad Photos
8 ] Filing
9 ] Ex-Boyfriends
10 ] Being Late
11 ] Benign Neglect
12 ] The Designated Driver
13 ] The Phone Call
14 ] Medical Forms
15 ] Uninhibitedness
16 ] The School Library
17 ] Flea Market Finds
18 ] High School Reunions
19 ] “They Forgot My Birthday”
20 ] The Phone in the Kitchen
21 ] The Family Meal
22 ] Private Humiliation
23 ] The Bookish Boy
24 ] Window Shopping
25 ] Solitude
26 ] Productivity
27 ] Letters to the Editor28 ] Losing Yourself in a Show
29 ] The Rolodex
30 ] Relying on the Doctor
31 ] Being First
32 ] Being the Only One
33 ] Birthday Cards
34 ] A Good Night’s Sleep
35 ] Knowing the Number
36 ] The Paper
37 ] Unpopular Opinions
38 ] Solo Travel
39 ] Paperwork
40 ] Missed Calls
41 ] The Spanish-English Dictionary
42 ] Patience
43 ] Ignoring People
44 ] Dittos
45 ] Seniority
46 ] Looking Out the Window
47 ] TV Guide
48 ] Civility
49 ] Receptionists
50 ] Private Observances
51 ] Leaving a Message
52 ] Toys and Games
53 ] Maps
54 ] Empathy
55 ] Handwritten Letters
56 ] Old Tech
57 ] Being in the Moment
58 ] Spelling
59 ] Record Albums
60 ] Wondering About the Weather
61 ] Bedtime Reading62 ] The Emergency Breakthrough
63 ] Your Attention Span
64 ] Sleepaway Camp
65 ] Rsvps
66 ] The Social Studies Textbook
67 ] Vacation
68 ] The Filofax
69 ] Eye Contact
70 ] Working Independently
71 ] Magazines
72 ] Asking Politely
73 ] Airplane Encounters
74 ] Your Checkbook
75 ] Missing Out
76 ] Penmanship
77 ] “Excuse Me”
78 ] Christmas Letters
79 ] Figuring Out Who That Actor Is
80 ] Passing Notes
81 ] Sick Days
82 ] Secrets
83 ] Card Catalogs
84 ] The College Lecture
85 ] Memory
86 ] Movie Theaters
87 ] Losing the Instruction Manual
88 ] The Blind Date
89 ] The Encyclopedia
90 ] The New Kid
91 ] The View
92 ] Scrabble Tiles
93 ] Humility
94 ] Cliffsnotes
95 ] A Parent’s Undivided Attention96 ] Touch-Typing
97 ] Photo Albums
98 ] Blocking Things Out
99 ] Social Cues
100 ] Closure

 

[sufi]

There's an early Christian story, which is also in the Quran, called the Seven Sleepers, which i'm sure can also be metaphorically applied here, somehow

Seven Sleepers - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Константинополь. 985 г. Миниатюра Минология Василия II. Ватиканская библиотека. Рим. from the Menologion of Basil II

 

[WashYourHands]

Plato got stuck in Wales this week

 

[sufi]

What does this have to do with Plato's Cave?

version mentioned plato's cave earlier - then deleted
but also the tale of the seven sleepers of ephesus

like the emperors new clothes inside out?

 

[Leo]

Or maybe Plato's Retreat?

 

[WashYourHands]

Plato's choon of the day week

 

[sufi]

What does this have to do with Plato's Cave?

tell us about plato's cave @version

 

[sufi]

tell us about plato's cave @version

please

 

[version]

I don't know anything about it and don't remember ever mentioning it.

 

[sufi]

ok, that's a pity 😑

 

[version]

What did you think I was going to say about it?

 

[sufi]

this is cute

 

[sufi]

What did you think I was going to say about it?

i dunno,
it's a lovely metaphor and i keep finding myself applying it to modern life esp the internets
maybe i misread a post but i was enthused when someone else brought it up!

 

[catalog]

My dog, when he sees dogs on the telly, he goes and looks round the back of the telly. That's platos cave innit.