The evolution of emotion

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Similar to my approach to desire: not to repress it or deny it, but to observe its flights and vacillations, so as to dispel any illusion of its absoluteness; to accept its nature as but a thread in the larger cosmic loom.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
I combinatorially see all the possible affective storms that could paint my emotional state as reactions to and impressions of the reality being experienced, states that go on to delineate certain fields of possible responses and expressions, all such movements seemingly driven by this or that desire, however vaguely identified.
 

luka

Well-known member
its interesting isnt it how prevalent that pop buddhism approach to emotion has become and how it is predicated on the idea that emotions are really very unpleasant things we have to protect ourselves from. have you ever felt happy? what do you think happiness might feel like? ive felt excited and energised and powerful loads but i dunno if i go around feeling happy as a rule
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
It just seems that, at a certain point of demystification, one becomes less prone to being swept up by these emotional currents.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
its interesting isnt it how prevalent that pop buddhism approach to emotion has become and how it is predicated on the idea that emotions are really very unpleasant things we have to protect ourselves from. have you ever felt happy? what do you think happiness might feel like? ive felt excited and energised and powerful loads but i dunno if i go around feeling happy as a rule
I can and do feel happy, but its not a state of mind I actively pursue, at least not often. I'm not very interested in happiness, but I do acknowledge the utility of its contagiousness: that being happy tends to make one a more magnetic person, often making communication easier.

Of course, that is a sociopathic way of framing these things. I could just as well frame it as the act of spreading happiness.
 

luka

Well-known member
i do feel like im in elevated spirits realtively often. i wonder if that is what people mean by happy?
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
I would say it involves an instinctive affirmation of the present and/or future, a preference of being over not being, however subtle or exuberant.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
I think its easier to open peoples' minds if you convey happiness, as if they see it as evidence of your success - even though, as I say, happiness isn't especially interesting to me, and it is far from being the object of my pursuits.
 

luka

Well-known member
but also cos i often go around thinking arent i great. but i dont know if i often go around thinking, oh isnt the world great.
maybe i would more if i lived in california
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
I think the world is wondrous on a level that is at once more abstract and more fundamental than the level of people and emotions, and I find this an infinitely renewing wonder, that the energy of the universe has evolved over billions of years into structures so intricate and complex that we can hardly begin to appreciate them with the naked eye.
 

luka

Well-known member
its tricky in a way. like, am i happy? how do i know? what do other people feel like? maybe im terribly depressed and i dont even realise, i just think im normal. or maybe actually im really great and i dont notice cos i think its normal. very confusing
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Its one way of affirming the abyss, that beyond the level of abstraction wherein people and emotions are chief concerns - the level occupied by most of us - there stretch quadrillions of kilometers of ostensible emptiness with patches of fierce and dazzling activity.
 

luka

Well-known member
I think its easier to open peoples' minds if you convey happiness, as if they see it as evidence of your success - even though, as I say, happiness isn't especially interesting to me, and it is far from being the object of my pursuits.
this is the same with personal trainers. if they have nice muscles it advertises their brand. you see it with all the hucksters too dont you.
smiling beatifically in their press shots
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
its tricky in a way. like, am i happy? how do i know? what do other people feel like? maybe im terribly depressed and i dont even realise, i just think im normal. or maybe actually im really great and i dont notice cos i think its normal. very confusing
You don't seem depressed as we speak, and you seem to have a good basis for deriving happiness, namely your interactions with people.
 
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