luka
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The big one for us in this country was the death of Princess DianaI think understanding that emotions are as much an external force as internal is an unreachable limit for mass groups, at least in the west
The big one for us in this country was the death of Princess DianaI think understanding that emotions are as much an external force as internal is an unreachable limit for mass groups, at least in the west
Yeah this is getting at what I mean by seeing through emotions (which I've previously referred to as "transcending" emotion, which seems misguided in hindsight), the process of which may allow one to break from emotionally-compelled behavior and mental activity, in ways that may expedite the understanding you are talking about.I think understanding that emotions are as much an external force as internal is an unreachable limit for mass groups, at least in the west
There was "a mass outpouring of emotion" that seemed viral. @Simon silverdollarcircle and @Slothrop who would have been teenagers at the time both describe finding themselves walking to Buckingham Palace with wreaths of flowers to lay at the gates, sobbing desperately, and then, in the aftermath, feeling as though they had been possessed. That it hadn't been them that had performed the actions, but something else had ridden them therehow so?
What kind of role did the princess play in the lives of the middle class? I find it hard to imagine such a state of sympathy for a political figure.There was "a mass outpouring of emotion" that seemed viral. @Simon silverdollarcircle and @Slothrop who would have been teenagers at the time both describe finding themselves walking to Buckingham Palace with wreaths of flowers to lay at the gates, sobbing desperately, and then, in the aftermath, feeling as though they had been possessed. That it hadn't been them that had performed the actions, but something else had ridden them there
Well, none as far as I know. That's why it was so strange and eerie.What kind of role did the princess play in the lives of the middle class? I find it hard to imagine such a state of sympathy for a political figure.
Well a lot of people have suggested it played into some mythic archetype or something.So little more than regal tabloid tragedy, then.
Yeah thats what I'm trying to get at re: matriarchal figure, a position of leadership that is also depended upon for emotional nourishment and support.Well a lot of people have suggested it played into some mythic archetype or something.
Fascinating, celebrity as a tool of populism. It seems obvious, really, and I'm sure it's been used in many cases. Just never occurred to me so plainly before. Although I suppose the philanthropy elevates it beyond mere celebrity, in this case.it's not so much that she performed any particular role but was continually portrayed on telly as the "people's princess", had the common touch, worked in a (very posh presumably) nursery school before marriage, hugged aids babies, campaigned against land mines, was betrayed in love, found new love with someone not white and died straight away, followed by a compulsory "outpouring of emotion" as luke says, again on telly, whole nation bursting into tears after watching
she wasn't in a position of leadership though, more like a scapegoat for everyone's emotional deficiencies, their despair at a cruel world, her betrayal in love by a prince of the realms thats what I'm trying to get at re: matriarchal figure, a position of leadership that is also depended upon for emotional nourishment and support.
Yeah as a philanthropic, alluring matriarchal figure that appealed to national pride, I suppose.I think he means a role in people's psychic lives?