they're a weird one for me. always had the impression that i should like them and they seem to be beloved. tried a few times but always hated what i heard. like an active dislike. really thin sounding to me
You don't understand how white people contribute to hip hop because you don't understand the Beastie Boys, the group that laid the blueprint for how white people contribute to hip hop. It's not colonization, it's more like translation. The Beastie Boys showed how all of the conventions of hip hop work when applied to white culture. The Beastie Boys contributed to hip hop precisely because their music contributed to white punk culture. Because rap is about being true to yourself while still representing you environment. If you feel like a punk inside, you can make hip hop music as long as its still punk music. If your cultural mileau is white punk culture, then the hip hop thing to do is to represent punk culture, which the Beastie Boys did and in doing so influenced all future white contributors to hip hop.
The fact that you hate punk explains so much about you.
That's basically what the Beastie Boys did on Paul's Boutique. Hey, you like electronic music right? That whole album was produced by the Dust Brothers.
Bruh, Paul Wall is a terrible example of a white guy that raps as opposed to a white rapper. He's basically a white guy who contributed nothing new to hip hop. He just followed hip hop's rules and trends very strictly. He was an orthodox rapper because he wanted to be accepted by hip hop without doing anything original. He didn't want to rock the boat. Even Bubba Sparks is a better white guy that raps than Paul Wall! Paul Wall is mainly famous for standing next to more talented black artists, e.g. DJ Screw. Sure Paul Wall as real hip hop. But there's more to being a great hip hop artist than just being real. You also have to be original.
it sounds like you're implying that being straight is a prerequisite to making "real hip hop." If not, I'd love an account of why you don't think Tyler's been "keeping it real."
Does he talk about queer issues? Issues that queer people deal with in real life? Can you name anyone other than Tyler? It's true, Tyler does make feminine music. But does he discuss the politics of queer culture? That "Boyfriend" sure doesn't. Lyrically it's just an average poppy relatively apolitical love song that happens to be about a queer relationship. That song has no socially conscious message about queer culture. Tyler keeps it real about other topics, like his mental health, but I know no song where he keeps it real about real queer issues.
Where at?
Dude yesssssss. That is what I want! Atleast a gay socially conscious rapper. If no socially conscious rapper comes out, I'm going to write the first socially conscious song about queer issues. Maybe I'll ghostwrite it for a queer rapper.
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