kid charlemagne
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seen posted on twitter with caption "arent u glad im not using a gun"
Americanisation of the English Right
kid charlemagne
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mixed_biscuits
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But this would allow people to get away with bluffing.
ver$hy ver$h
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UK populists mix faith and politics with parroting of ‘Judeo-Christian values’
Rightwingers in Britain are beguiled by the potential of religious rhetoric after its use by Trump and Vance in the US
www.theguardian.com
Mr. Tea
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It'll never take off. Nobody cares about Christianity here any more apart from Polish grandmas and those African churches where it's all singing and stuff.UK populists mix faith and politics with parroting of ‘Judeo-Christian values’
Rightwingers in Britain are beguiled by the potential of religious rhetoric after its use by Trump and Vance in the US
Oh, and the occasional fascistic guinea pig.
ver$hy ver$h
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I wouldn't be so confident. There weren't that many people taking strong positions on the EU until suddenly there were. You get GB News and The Spectator and the rest of them pushing this stuff along with Reform and the Tories, a sympathetic US and the usual online manipulation tactics and don't be surprised if it starts to filter down to the public, particularly if they graft it onto 'wokeness' and the immigration debate and frame it as the only form of resistance to the left, Islam and globalisation.
ver$hy ver$h
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Yeah, exactly. Both Farage and Badenoch emphasised culture in their comments. It's not about faith.
Murphy
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“Christ is king” was a murmery expression during the bedlam of last summer
semi-irrelevant whether it’s believed - it’s whatever is done in its name in a broader movement over immigration and attempts at wedging issues to further sow division and legal changes
Anglicanism is all rainbow now and the British are not going to go southern Baptist in enough numbers to register a tipping point, refuse to google rates of catholic conversion in this country over x years during a break from Saturday night’s psychosis at work
semi-irrelevant whether it’s believed - it’s whatever is done in its name in a broader movement over immigration and attempts at wedging issues to further sow division and legal changes
Anglicanism is all rainbow now and the British are not going to go southern Baptist in enough numbers to register a tipping point, refuse to google rates of catholic conversion in this country over x years during a break from Saturday night’s psychosis at work
mixed_biscuits
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That's complete nonsense. The growth of euroscepticism was demonstrably linear from the inception of the EC; what you have there is what's called a conspiracy theory.
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You've got Islam in the wrong camp, as Islam is against the left because the left believes in so many things that are anti-Islamic.
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Gen Z are markedly more religious/spiritual than their parents. This is a bit odd and surprising as once atheism takes hold it's supposed to continue until the civilisation dies. But I think it's because there are conditions that pertain now that haven't before, with Gen Z being inspired by online sources and rebelling against the meaninglessness and chaos that they see in millennial and Gen X lifestyles.
mixed_biscuits
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This is not what the surveys are saying. The spiritual Gen Zers are also aligned to progressive causes and they just adjust their religious practice so that there's no contradiction (hello Anglicanism!)
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Gen Z identified the problems with atheism and liberalism that lead to societal collapse and taught themselves (ignoring their pot-bellied dissolute parents or at least those parents who are actually still around to parent them) the more traditional ways that have a much better track record
IdleRich
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Exactly
IdleRich
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There just seens such a massive Inherent contradiction in loads of British frauds going cap in hand to the US and begging them to topple (democratically elected pm lest we forget) Starmer or simply invade the UK - saw someone on twitter yesterday begging Musk to release Tommy Robinson - how long can that position be held alongside one of patriotism without collapsing into ridiculousness?
luka
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Wishful thinking my rumanian friend
DLaurent
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I've noticed conservatives who align themselves with either Reform or the traditional Tory party have taken to distancing themselves from Trump. Just what I read online, not politicians themselves, but forum commentators, who hate Trump. Don't ask me why. I think it's to do with the stuff Trump's been saying about Ukraine. If Boris Johnson said the same things, I'm sure they'd support him.
ver$hy ver$h
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Read the line in context. I'm talking from the perspective of the right. All three things listed are considered their enemies. I'm not talking about the tensions between the left and Islam or the left and globalisation, which do exist. They're different discussions.
Nah, it's not. It wasn't a priority for a lot of people until the press went into overdrive, Farage started popping up all over the place and Tory policy did enough damage that a decent chunk of the population were in need of a target. For a long time it was considered something of a fringe position.
The 'Trad Cath' thing you hear about online's a bunch of younger people LARPing because it's become a fashionable contrarian move. The crystal stuff and less structured spirituality you get on TikTok's essentially just flimsy 'wellness' posturing. I'm not convinced the majority of these people are genuinely becoming more religious or more spiritual.