sus

Moderator


wow! the AI has turned me into an art critic who enriches the conversation and challenges assumptions!
and it turns @sus and @0bleak into cruel villains!
the AI ignored the pegging comment though, disappointing

"and then the conversation takes a turn, to a conversation that's often difficult to navigate: mental health"

"makes sense that would come up on a forum like this"
 

sus

Moderator
"what might seem like ana intellectual discussion for one person might be deeply personal to another"
 

william_kent

Well-known member

Dissensus Thread Analysis: A Study Guide​

Quiz​

Instructions: Answer each question in 2-3 sentences.
  1. What are some of the specific complaints that "kid charlemagne" has about the original poster (OP) (understood to be "kid charlemagne") in their initial post?
  2. How does "william_kent" attempt to reframe "kid charlemagne's" assessment of the OP's (understood to be "kid charlemagne") drawings?
  3. What does "sus" suggest is the "contagious and self-fulfilling" quality of mental health diagnoses?
  4. What specific challenge does the OP (understood to be "kid charlemagne") mention related to their motor skills?
  5. What is the context for "yyaldrin's" frustrated comment about a girl?
  6. What does "Murphy cat malogen" suggest as a potential strategy for dealing with relationship frustrations?
  7. What does "0bleak" mean when they say, "I was saying you've been possessed by one," referring to "sus?"
  8. What does "sus" say about when they would have preferred to be diagnosed?
  9. What does the use of the term "meme" imply in "sus's" comment?
  10. Explain the significance of the line, "I accept and recognize your identity" in this thread.

Essay Questions​

  1. Analyze the ways in which online anonymity and pseudonymity contribute to the tone and content of the discussion in this thread. Consider how users might express themselves differently in a face-to-face context.
  2. Discuss the roles of "kid charlemagne," "sus," "william_kent," and "Murphy cat malogen" in this thread. How does each user contribute to the conversation and the overall themes?
  3. Explore the interplay between personal experience and broader societal perceptions of mental health in this discussion. How do users navigate the complex relationship between the two?
  4. How does the language used in this forum post, particularly the use of hyperbole and sarcasm, impact the exchange of ideas and emotions? Provide specific examples from the text.
  5. Examine the use of humor in the thread. In what ways is the humor used to build connections, deflect criticism, or highlight the emotional complexities being discussed?

Glossary of Key Terms​

  • Dissensus: The online forum or website where this discussion takes place. This is where users post their messages, forming a dialogue.
  • OP (Original Poster): In the context of a forum thread, the individual who starts the discussion by posting an initial message. In this instance, "kid charlemagne" is the original poster, according to the analysis of the text.
  • Banter: Light, playful conversation with back-and-forth teasing. In this context it refers to "kid charlemagne's" original attempt at communication.
  • Trolling: Intentionally provoking or upsetting someone online. In this thread, it is unclear whether anyone is trolling, or just attempting to engage in online communication that could be interpreted as such.
  • NVLD (Nonverbal Learning Disability): A learning disability that affects an individual's spatial skills and motor skills. This term is used by "sus" in a defensive way to ensure that the community understands they are an active member of it, and their experiences are valid.
  • Memetic: Relating to or characteristic of a meme. A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture. In this thread, "sus" suggests that mental illness may operate like a meme.
  • Self-Fulfilling Quality: A term used by "sus" to describe how mental health diagnoses can cause an individual to act in a manner that conforms with a diagnosis. They use this term to suggest that diagnoses are contagious and that people are influenced to behave in a way that is associated with it.
  • Motor/Visual-Spatial Skills: These are skills associated with the body's ability to move and understand visual concepts like shapes and space. In this context, the OP describes these as being poor.
  • Sexual Masochism Disorder: A condition where a person experiences sexual arousal from the act of being humiliated, beaten, bound or made to suffer. "Murphy cat malogen" refers to this term in the context of relationships and sexual frustration.
 

william_kent

Well-known member
there is still hope for us yet, the AI generated "study guide" gets it all wrong in ways only we humans can understand
 

kid charlemagne

Well-known member
1. You've said you have had stomach issues - things like g/i issues, allergies, etc. are similar to a lot of other people on the spectrum or with similar disorders. Now this on its own doesn't mean much on its own, but is part of the larger picture.
2.


Humiliatingly sensual? Surely I can't be the only person to have read that and thought WTF. Who talks like that?!?! and how was it humiliating?!?!
3. The way you responded so coldly and rationally when I initiated banter with you here https://www.dissensus.com/threads/18236/page-3#post-780890 - Are you trolling me?
4. Your drawings - sorry, but this is what broke the camel's back - they don't seem any better than what a child would do. And then you thought to post them up for appraisal? Either you've got the biggest balls in the world, just don't have enough sense to care or to even evaluate if they are worth posting, or you're trolling.
5. You are one of the most naive, most worldly inexperienced I've people ever seen, and you also seem to still care too much of what your mom thinks of you, and you've got no edge at all.

This is just off the top of my head - I could probably think of other things as well.
1. yes i have had gi issues for over a year now that i havent fully figured out
2. i often felt humiliated by myself in how i would stay over with her knowing that she didnt feel as strong towards me as i did towards her, in my mind as i speak on these things, a more headstrong and non humiliated man wouldve have moved on much sooner, but despite all of this every night i did spend with her was still so sensual in how she treated me.... constantly sexually pleased, but mentally drained by the guilt of knowing this wouldnt end well, and it didnt
3. with that message i didnt think i came off so cold, i hardly knew what you meant or implied
4. i dont post my drawings because i think theyre good or high art... i enjoy drawing them, so i post them, i seriously do not give a shit if people do not think theyre good.... i dont think you need "the biggest balls in the world" to post drawings to strangers on the internet, why should i care if theyre "worth posting" or not, like serioulsy, catalog encouraged me on posting, and they got laughing and fire reactions so why should i be swayed otherwise?
5. my parents, my mom especially have always been whats the word maybe not overbearing, but maybe judgemental or overreactive to things in life.... i dont really tell them a lot about myself or my life or my problems or stresses, because they can get pretty scared or worried for me fast, i guess i get avoident and just keep them at bay i dont really know how to explain it really..... and yes i am absolutely in acknowledgement with how worldly inexperienced i am in life, i constantly find shock in some of the things i read on here and stories people tell from their lives, so many experiences i witness on her are just insanely foreign to me, but all of this is kind of comforting to me in a sense

bottom line here is that i do not know why there should be any worry or problem from anyone with how i conduct myself or talk online.... so what if i am the way i am and talk the way i talk.... so what if i am a autistic spectrum zoomer who is so foreign online to you
 

kid charlemagne

Well-known member
For all I know Kid is a severely disturbed individual who is going to kill the owner of the Mets when the ball drops tonight on 42nd street.
ok look now i already said how uninspired i am now with all that because of how unecouraging everyone was with that thread..... i had a nice night with my mother and we went to the movies.... i did not and have not made any plans to kill anyone, no one fed into my thoughts, you all did the opposite and swayed me away from those types of actions
 

william_kent

Well-known member

What can be inferred about the forum's dynamics and community based on the exchanges?

The forum seems to be characterized by a mixture of genuine engagement, critical evaluation, and occasional hostility. Some users actively attempt to understand and engage with Kid Charlemagne, while others are more critical and dismissive. The conversation involves a mix of humor, provocation, and personal sharing, sometimes blurring the lines between constructive criticism and personal attacks. Overall the forum is a site where different perspectives clash and, at times, result in significant misunderstandings. It seems that the rules for engagement are unclear and sometimes intentionally tested.
 

0bleak

A Liniment's Evil Work
bottom line here is that i do not know why there should be any worry or problem from anyone with how i conduct myself or talk online.... so what if i am the way i am and talk the way i talk.... so what if i am a autistic spectrum zoomer who is so foreign online to you
I WILL NOT FUCKING STOP BEING AND ACTING ME ONLINE

Look, I expressed how I was reticent, but you said you came here for hard truths, but now you seem defensive after I said my "truths".
 

catalog

Well-known member
1. yes i have had gi issues for over a year now that i havent fully figured out
2. i often felt humiliated by myself in how i would stay over with her knowing that she didnt feel as strong towards me as i did towards her, in my mind as i speak on these things, a more headstrong and non humiliated man wouldve have moved on much sooner, but despite all of this every night i did spend with her was still so sensual in how she treated me.... constantly sexually pleased, but mentally drained by the guilt of knowing this wouldnt end well, and it didnt
3. with that message i didnt think i came off so cold, i hardly knew what you meant or implied
4. i dont post my drawings because i think theyre good or high art... i enjoy drawing them, so i post them, i seriously do not give a shit if people do not think theyre good.... i dont think you need "the biggest balls in the world" to post drawings to strangers on the internet, why should i care if theyre "worth posting" or not, like serioulsy, catalog encouraged me on posting, and they got laughing and fire reactions so why should i be swayed otherwise?
5. my parents, my mom especially have always been whats the word maybe not overbearing, but maybe judgemental or overreactive to things in life.... i dont really tell them a lot about myself or my life or my problems or stresses, because they can get pretty scared or worried for me fast, i guess i get avoident and just keep them at bay i dont really know how to explain it really..... and yes i am absolutely in acknowledgement with how worldly inexperienced i am in life, i constantly find shock in some of the things i read on here and stories people tell from their lives, so many experiences i witness on her are just insanely foreign to me, but all of this is kind of comforting to me in a sense

bottom line here is that i do not know why there should be any worry or problem from anyone with how i conduct myself or talk online.... so what if i am the way i am and talk the way i talk.... so what if i am a autistic spectrum zoomer who is so foreign online to you
I really love your drawings. They are similar to my own and similar to other people I love

Here's a few of mine from 2021


It's was my wife's 40th birthday party.

And here are some people I love as drawers

Marcio matos:

Post in thread 'The Greatest Record Cover Auteurs' https://www.dissensus.com/threads/16259/post-555231

Mat Brinkman

 
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