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sus

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Allen Ginsberg was the luggage handler they cut his set from five to two minutes and then had him handle baggage for Dylan. And then they gave Dylan the Nobel.
 

sus

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I love Joni so much and I love Ronee. Allen is a little pathetic in the portrayal I pity him but sympathize.

Bob IDK somehow he seems like the least interesting person there, he's a question mark
 

kid charlemagne

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dylan mentions lines from ginsberg, frost, and whitman, lines that are still remembered and quoted today. he then says that poets today dont connect to the public concioussness like they used to. is this true? why is it true? dylan then says that its singers now, lyrics are now what are remembered and quoted today. are they worthy of this?
 
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kid charlemagne

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I love Joni so much and I love Ronee. Allen is a little pathetic in the portrayal I pity him but sympathize.

Bob IDK somehow he seems like the least interesting person there, he's a question mark
finally made it to joni. her interrogating this guy about why he distinguishes between male and female songwriters, "am i not in the same conversation as bob and leonard?"
 
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Bob IDK somehow he seems like the least interesting person there, he's a question mark
theres a line in there that goes like "When you look at Dylan, it's like looking into a mirror, you either are frightened, or you see what you want to see." or something.... and i think that sums a lot of his deal up
 
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@sus it seems you are watching Dylan so I’d be curious what you think of this film if you haven’t seen it. It’s a fascinating concept for a music biopic but I’ve never been fully convinced it works as a whole. Still worth a watch.
 
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What I think is interesting is Dylan's systematic rejection of the reporters' language. The system wants you to submit to its terms, its concepts, its carvings, its dichotomies, its triage.
 

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I think this is very important it's why prophetic voices often come from the outside, the periphery. They have to speak a different language than their audience, that alterity is essential
 

kid charlemagne

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What I think is interesting is Dylan's systematic rejection of the reporters' language. The system wants you to submit to its terms, its concepts, its carvings, its dichotomies, its triage.


“We all have our own definitions of all those words… you know, care and people”

“Well surely we know what people are—”

“Well, uh, do we?”
 

sus

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It's been interesting seeing the ripple of the Dylan biopic. Guy skating down the street is listening to Highway 61. Parked car off trailhead is playing Girl From the North Country. Me Gram emails about watching Don't Look Back and a 1965 San Francisco press interview. Dad texts me about same pairing, turns out it's a common YouTube rabbithole that's opened up since Christmas, Mojo.com's Top Ten Fact And Fiction roundup is next.

Bombs, sparks, fads, these things all radiate and spread. Rolling thunder.
 

kid charlemagne

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this is why i feel bad about being harsh on the film, well, i guess despite not "liking" or thinking the film is "good", above all, its existence is warranted for everyone who gets introduced to the prophets words and music
 

ver$hy ver$h

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I saw a clip of Chalamet on a red carpet somewhere and he was just screaming "BOB DYLANNNNN" into the camera over and over.
 
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