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re: Booka Shade/MANDY -- that Critical Beats list in the year end issue is 100% Philip Sherburne, nothing to do w/ them 'trying to look hip'
alo said:Another Wire trait: making music sound more exciting than it is)
Tweak Head said:That's my beef with it ... they big stuff up that turns out to be nothing special. Pretty much everything I've bought after a glowing write-up in the Wire has turned out to be crap (for example they think Keiji Haino is a god...).
dubplatestyle said:the wire's electronic coverage has definitely changed since sherburne took over from shapiro doing critical beats. which is fine; phil's got his own agenda, as does everyone. but i would like to see a LITTLE more of something in there other than techno/house.
Octopus? said:Ah, there's no debating the sainthood of the mighty Keiji Haino. Listen to "Vertigo" off the Fushitsusha disc "Withdrawe, This Sable Disclosure Ere Devot'd" and tell me that the man responsible shouldn't be feted for eternity.
Admittedly he does have a bit of a product glut issue at times, but even his misfired sketches are more interesting than most artists' fully realized works.
Tweak Head said:Thought I might bring the Keiji fans into the light ... I tried to find the CD I bought to get the name of it but couldn't. It had him plus a jazz drummer and bassist all paying at the same time but not seeming to be connected in any way. It was rubbish. Also some other stuff I heard I hated.
dubplatestyle said:the wire's electronic coverage has definitely changed since sherburne took over from shapiro doing critical beats. which is fine; phil's got his own agenda, as does everyone. but i would like to see a LITTLE more of something in there other than techno/house.
big satan said:sounds like it could be the either the one with joey baron and greg cohen or the laswell/ali one. seriously, i can't think of anyone who's discography is more of a minefield to the not-already-an-obsessed-fan than keiji haino. i'd recomend any of the early 90s fushitsusha stuff as a good starting point (i.e. PSF 3/4, PSF 15/16 or Pathetique (aka PSF 50)) or I Saw It, That Which Before I Could Only Sense. as for his solo stuff try Next Let's Try Changing The Shape. and i'd say avoid pretty much anything else until you've decided if you're a fan or not. generally the reason why people like him is because of fushitsusha though.
Blackdown said:if The Wire can't get love from a forum like Dissensus, who the hell is buying it!?
I was using 'dance' in a pretty broad sense. I'd always had him down as dubby jazzy electonica rather than electronic jazzy dub or electronic dubby jazz, but I might well be wrong.droid said:Friedmann's hardly a 'dance' artist is he though? Dub/Jazz/Electronica... hes obviously 'fringeworthy' enough to make the grade...