Albums/artists you just DON'T GET.

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nomadologist

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No, people would probably call me a DJ in my 20s.

who lives in canada and spins a fairly obscure genre of british music? that's what you do, right? in the US we would call that a hipster.

someone else I don't get: Belle and Sebastian. they sound like how living in a room painted with sickly easter pastels and decorated by my grandma would feel
 

Guybrush

Dittohead
Aitken’s rap is in the anti-gangsta tradition: “A lot of rappers sing about the Cristal and the Jacuzzis and the fast cars and the you’re-my-bitch,” she says. “And I’m like, okay, that’s very cool, but they have no concept of champagne and fast cars, coming from that background. I’ve had all the Cristal. I’m more philosophical.”

She sounds adorable. The article is from 2003 so I guess the record did not fare very well. It would not surprise me, however, if somebody with more talent succeeded using a similar concept. I guess Princess Superstar comes close, but she is too earthy.

Belle and Sebastian is a hard nut to crack. When I (am forced to) listen to Belle and Sebastian, and other saccharine indie bands, I always get a feeling that there is an under vegetation of darkest gloom hiding below the treacly surface, a sort of balancing factor to the sunlit surface. You need to find that sombre undertow for the songs to flourish, I think, for the melodies are often surprisingly unspectacular compared to their unabashedly commercial chart-peers’. As I intimated at the beginning of the paragraph, I am not quite there yet, so they remain an annoyance to me.
 

swears

preppy-kei
I had a girlfriend who liked B&S when I was about sixteen, I got the feeling the singer was trying a bit too hard to sound like a drip.
 
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nomadologist

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yeah, Guybrush, some of their songs are memorable, I suppose, pretty/sad sort of melodies...some of the Magnetic Fields stuff Stephen Merritt did had the same sort of twee bittersweet thing going on but to a much better end, I think.

personally, i can't separate them (here i go again) in my mind from their fans. there was this whole faction of kids in my college who lived twee as a lifestyle and some of the girls would knit mittens in class (i'm not making this up) and wear ripped up old granny coats from thrift shops that reeked of moth balls and were very ill-fitting. of course, they were not girls who couldn't afford to buy nice clothes--about as far from it as you can get--or at least clothes that didn't smell like someone's attic. there was a weird crossover between these kids and the riot grrrl types, so that some of them didn't shave their legs or armpits and (again, I'm not kidding) really were mad at biology or god or whatever for not making them born a lesbian. because this would have made them so much cooler.

a boy i knew dated one once, and through him we found out that among their clique, many of the girls had this feminist-motivated (don't ask me what their reasoning was here) sexual practice where they'd use strap-on dildos to have anal sex with their boyfriends. i guess because if you can't be a natural-born lesbian, it's the next best thing? that's my only guess. this is the kind of campus i got my BA on. we also had college-funded nights called "sexual chocolate" where they had demonstrations of sex toys and porns and tantric sex classes in this big festival that would last for days. oh and a campus amateur porn magazine called "Squirm" that the college gave students money to publish. lots of money.

so if i seem especially arch in my hatred of classic 90s indierock, you can imagine why...:eek:
 
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nomadologist

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i don't understand why anyone would ever listen to radiohead. i know i'm gonna get it now *ducks*

(so lots of guys want to get reamed by smelly lesbian wannabes who don't shave? the world is a much cooler place than i thought. i'm bisexual but didn't find those girls very attractive. that's the thing. they were ugly and smelled bad, and even worse, listened to belle and sebastian and le tigre. so i still can't figure out what the deal was.)
 

STN

sou'wester
I think Le Tigre are quite cool. I liked that song they did about Cassavettes, it's reasonably funny. Whether I just like them out of some misplaced loyalty to Bikini Kill is up for debate.

Belle and Sebastien are bloody awful. I've always hated them. I wouldn't say I don't 'get' them, though, by which I mean I think it's their fault I don't like them.

I don't really get Parliament/Funkadelic though. Can anyone recommend anything that's not steeped in wibbly voices and talk of 'doo-doo'?
 
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nomadologist

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no way, funkadelic is amazing! you really don't like them? not even maggot brain? hehe. maybe it just sounds dated now?

george clinton needs to lay off the pipe though, last time i saw them live he was openly smoking crack
 

STN

sou'wester
Actually, nomadologist, I will make a humble exception for Maggot Brain. The guitar on that is face-melting. It's more One Nation and Free Your Mind that I can't get along with and I really have tried. It just reminds me of Zappa who I don't like either (other than, rather predicatbly, Hot Rats and that Reuben and the Jets LP).

Am I just being a fool?
 

mms

sometimes
I don't really get Parliament/Funkadelic though. Can anyone recommend anything that's not steeped in wibbly voices and talk of 'doo-doo'?

try funkadelics first bits
funkadelic, free your ass and your mind will follow, and maggot brain.
stone cold classics.

for parliament try funkentelechy versus the placebo syndrome osimium or mothership connection.
 
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nomadologist

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I see your point with the Zappa comparison, but he would have been aping them, no? So really if Zappa had never existed, they wouldn't have been able to taint your Parliament/Funkadelic listening experiences. Try to erase the Mothers of Prevention nonsense from your mind and the rest will be easy.

(Isn't Maggot Brain maybe the best thing that ever happened to the world? Some days I think that, honestly. Lately I have been into Space is the Place, too. Not that they're all that similar, but...)
 

STN

sou'wester
Okay, I will do as you suggest. I'll let you know how I get on.

I'm as with you on Space is the Place as I'm with anyone on anything.
 
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