swears
preppy-kei
rapidshare is free up to a certain amount of space, I think.
Modern d'n'b is rubbish - tune ID and a moan from an old man
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rapidshare is free up to a certain amount of space, I think.
Oh here we go:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/u01y8t
That's the DJ Lewi VIP mix which is the more garagey of the 2 mixes on the 12, the other is more breaksy and less funky.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/u01y8t
That's the DJ Lewi VIP mix which is the more garagey of the 2 mixes on the 12, the other is more breaksy and less funky.
bassnation
the abyss
lol, you say that, but hardcore was always written by and for chavs (or proto-chavs, because they didn't really exist back then)
swears
preppy-kei
That's fascinating, liking the little vocal stabs. Cheers edward.
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
That's why I tend to big up what good stuff there is as often as possible.
It's certainly not the centre of hardcore gravity, but that's not the same as being dead in the water. Techno hasn't been the centre of hardcore gravity for 15 years and that shows no signs of stopping (cf minimal). Leftfield dnb is obviously a much smaller scene than that, but there's no reason it shouldn't keep moving forward in its own way if it can establish an identity distinct from Clipz and Die...
UFO over easy
online mahjong
hehe.. you could look at it the other way round though. these chaps were part of a scene for ages, and seeing that scene destroy itself so spectacularly would probably make anyone feel a bit disillusioned with scenes in general. it probably feels really nice to be more self-reliant after that
I'm 21 so I look at drum and bass a bit differently.. it's easier to ignore the stuff I don't like as I wasn't around to see it taking over the scene. I've kind of got a birds eye view of 15 years of jungle, so I pick and choose the stuff I like and pay no attention to the stuff I don't
Dubstep satisifies all my scene needs, so I don't really participate in drum and bass other than as a listener and bedroom dj, which helps too.bassnation
the abyss
this is true, and don't get me wrong i am the last person to argue against people producing good jungle. thing is, jungle probably makes more money for djs and its producers than its ever done. critically, its hated - not the first time this has happened,but the last time was back in 1993,but the big difference is the music was good people stuck with it through times where no-one even knew it was still going on. now loads of people are into it, but the mainstream sucks. thats a big deal for older fans who put everything into it. its like giving up on a relationship, once you've cut those ties yeah its tempting to go back but things have moved on.
jonny mugwump
exotic pylon
just for the record, of course malice can't repeat the blisschaos of early rufige and yeah, i agree with Nick, an excellent EP is hidden away there. I concede that i have totally lost track with d'n'b now- the initial thrill of coming into contact with the sound via that album has faded disapointingly quickly, but, its fine- if some of the tunes/ artists on this thread are as good as they sound, then i'll be over the moon. I approach with an open mind, and a certain amount of trepidation- being disapointed so many times before i really ache to hear some decent jungle again.
it really is no different now. while it's true that good jungle today is 4 parts genius to 1 part scenius, the fact is that there IS a scene--albeit tiny, and spread quite thin across the globe--in which real drum & bass music is made, played out, and enjoyed, with major-league "drum & bass" acting as an incredibly dense smokescreen to outsiders. you could also say that the producers and participants in this so-called "leftfield" scene (a misnomer, since it's entirely faithful to the original music) are no more aware of what's happening in the dnb mainstream than the disenfranchised former junglists are aware of them. they basically associate with each other. it's no hardcore scene, but it's not as if they each operate within a bubble, either, severed from any notion of community.
it simply has to grow, but it seems unlikely to garner much more interest if people are only seeking to replicate the identical sociocultural conditions of 1993. i'm personally grateful that internet forums, as disconnected from LDN as they are, have allowed the spare handful of stalwart junglists around the world to connect with and vibe off of each other, and throw parties, and form labels--there would be a lot less interesting music.
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bassnation
the abyss
well, all i can say is that if i hear good stuff i will buy it. i like naphtas stuff, but the oft repeated nu skool revival (e.g. stuff like dj clever) is still too fucking fast and although its a big improvement from the dnb mainstream, just isn't as interesting to me as the best dubstep is. why settle for adequate when it was once life-changing?
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UFO over easy
online mahjong
Some fantastic labels not connected to the (utterly mediocre) 'revival' movement - offshore, subvert central, bassbin/breakin', subtle audio, counter intelligence, secret operations, thermal
viktorvaughn
Well-known member
OK, I'm convinced - what's a good underground dnb night to go to in London? Or is the point that there aren't any, i didn't follow the whole debate.
bassnation
the abyss
i'm not convinced. have yet to hear a single track from offshore et al which has got a reaction beyond feeling that its adequate or a slight improvement on the mainstream (although some tunes by breakage are pretty good). put your money where your mouths are dnb lovers. i never stopped listening to cutting edge music, just dnb when it lost the plot.
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viktorvaughn
Well-known member
I was only convinced by their enthusiasms, i haven't listened to any of the links. Damn, I'm easily swayed...!
Some really great drum'n'bass from the margins is coming out on Alphacut Records. They don't care much for the scene, not even using the usual dnb distribution channels and are just doing their thing. http://www.alphacutrecords.com