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Koscielny is a good player. Djourou was the one who was gash. it goes beyond the individual players, though - the whole system isn't functioning properly (with the added caveats of three suspensions and injuries).

anyway...

I am going to convince myself that what I just saw was entirely a product of my high fever and this shit never happened.
 
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nomos

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e/y said:
(with the added caveats of three suspensions and injuries)
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Going into this without Sagna, Vermaelan, Gibbs, Song (+ his backups in Frimpong and Diaby), Gervinho, Wilshere, or a Cesc replacement, was never going to be good. Shame about Jenkinson and Frimpong's cards. You get the feeling they're trying their damnedest - and doing well considering - but they're being thrown into it way too quickly. To be relying on them at this stage is lunacy.

I wonder what it was like in the dressing room.
 
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nomos said:
I wonder what it was like in the dressing room.
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Apparently Arshavin, Rosicky and Chamakh went straight down the tunnel at full time. Van Persie called them back to acknowledge the fans, who'd web fucking loud all game if the telly in the pub I was in was anything to go by.
 
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e/y

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the away fans sounded brilliant.

agree with everything you said, nomos. really hope that in the next 3 days, Arsene and the club can bring in a few players (in addition to the Korean striker from Monaco who was signed last night). as it stands, this is a very poor situation, but I'm not for replacing Wenger yet.
 
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Yeah just reading this on Twitter.

7amkickoff said:
Arsenal players responding well to the away support who have been chanting for 8 minutes straight. NO quitting!
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7amkickoff said:
From now on you must refer to every Arsenal supporter who traveled to this game as "Sir." I am knighting them all.
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Also worth noting...
gunnerblog said:
Injured United players: Carrick, Vidic, Valencia, Rafael. Ferdinand only fit for bench. You wouldn't have known.
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Ulala

Ulala

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I deliberately avoided the football all day so I could watch the highlights without knowing the scores. I've just finished doing so. Bloody great. What a night for Ferguson to relinquish his ongoing 'fuck the BBC' stance, they couldn't have timed it better even if they'd wanted to, in terms of being fawning and complimentary.

Some sort of reverse-Samson effect on Rooney - the syrup (well yeah, plugs, but same difference) has conferred mighty powers upon him.
 
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tom lea

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nomos said:
Shame about Jenkinson and Frimpong's cards. You get the feeling they're trying their damnedest - and doing well considering - but they're being thrown into it way too quickly. To be relying on them at this stage is lunacy.
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yeah, i felt particularly bad for jenkinson.

if you look at united's young players - cleverly, welbeck, evans - they've all had at least one year of playing regularly for another premiership team, and it shows when they're up against people like jenkinson, who really got thrown in at the deep end. young players will make mistakes, that's part of football, so really you need to loan these players out and let them make those mistakes elsewhere.

it also doesn't help that there's no leadership from the back. if you have to throw a young centre-back in at the deep end but he's alongside a terry or vidic or ferdinand, they can hold their line against his, and they'll tell him where to be. koscielny was the senior defender in yesterday's back four, and he doesn't seem to communicate at all (see the first goal yesterday, the winner in last year's carling cup final).

there's some scaremongering going on right now, sure, but i do think arsenal are potentially in big trouble. it was always obvious that they were gonna have to spend some money, but now i don't know how appealing a move there even is if you're a phil jones or a jagielka or whatever. if they do spend this 80 million they're supposed to have, then i certainly don't think they'll be able to spend it on the sort of players they could have got two years ago. liverpool and city now seem far more appealing options.

there's clearly not much of a dressing room (see nasri's comments last year, walcott's ones a while back, the rows with van persie, gallas etc), and i think the lack of older/senior players as well as wenger's reluctance to criticise his own players has contributed to a dangerous lack of heirachy and discipline there, which leads to ppl getting sent off on their debuts and a lack of steel when the chips are down.

their two best players have left and have been pretty instantly successful at their new clubs so far. i think that'll be weighing on the mind of van persie, szczesny, arshavin and rosicky, and if arsenal don't make the champions league this year i wouldn't be surprised if they tried to get out too.
 
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Phaedo

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Mertesacker is pretty much the perfect signing you have got to say. 6ft 6in, 75 caps for Germany, maybe Wenger has cottoned on that everyone might of been right telling him that they need height and experience (especially in defense). From what i remember of him in the world cup and euro's though he's pretty sluggish though, could be a issue.

Andre Santos could also be a good signing also, don't know much about him but just the fact that he is 28 must give Arsenal fans some faith lol.

On another note, pleasantly surprised by the England squad for the upcoming qualifying fixtures. With the young United players doing so well atm if I was Cappello would be tempted to give most of them a game. Edit: Shame Welbeck is injured, Young, Rooney and him have been a deadly front three recently.
 
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