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nomadologist

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Tell me more about Akathisia. How is different from mania?
I fear I have been suffering from something akin to this for many years (literally unable to sit still, having to get up and pace, clicking fingers, clapping, a tense agitation somewhere between paranoia and euphoria... rage and grandiosity.) Maybe just mania though. Hmm.

FIRST: Goomba, wrong again. Canned tuna is full of mercury, which can be poisonous and isn't good for anyone let alone someone who is mentally ill. Just wanted to get that out of the way.

@Gek

This sounds a little like mania, but the level of anxiety accompanying your mania either means it's not full-blown mania, where you completely lose any sense of what you "ought not" to do), but hypomania. or you're a pretty textbook bipolar II and, having gone untreated, it's seriously affecting your life (which often happens to those with bipolar II). it really depends on whether this mania lasts at least a couple weeks at a time and is followed by similarly long episodes of depression where you can barely move (this is what i get).

you might at least talk to a doctor. i've also heard people with excess adrenal gland production having similar issues to yours. or super fast metabolisms.
 
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nomadologist

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Tell me more about Akathisia. How is different from mania?
I fear I have been suffering from something akin to this for many years (literally unable to sit still, having to get up and pace, clicking fingers, clapping, a tense agitation somewhere between paranoia and euphoria... rage and grandiosity.) Maybe just mania though. Hmm.

also sounds kinda like ADD, though I hate to say it
 

gek-opel

entered apprentice
FIRST: Goomba, wrong again. Canned tuna is full of mercury, which can be poisonous and isn't good for anyone let alone someone who is mentally ill. Just wanted to get that out of the way.

@Gek

This sounds a little like mania, but the level of anxiety accompanying your mania either means it's not full-blown mania, where you completely lose any sense of what you "ought not" to do), but hypomania. or you're a pretty textbook bipolar II and, having gone untreated, it's seriously affecting your life (which often happens to those with bipolar II). it really depends on whether this mania lasts at least a couple weeks at a time and is followed by similarly long episodes of depression where you can barely move (this is what i get).

you might at least talk to a doctor. i've also heard people with excess adrenal gland production having similar issues to yours. or super fast metabolisms.

My thyroid was checked out a while ago, result being that apparently it is absolutely fine. Apparently my "cycles" are too brief, too rapid to count as Bipolar. But yeah brutal depression sometimes involved for sure. Also my mania never reaches the point of hardcore bipolar mania with the psychotic visions and stuff!
 
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mixed_biscuits

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Recent posts support those who might posit a positive correlation between mental/emotional instability and hard left political views (every HMLT post?).

Personally, I'm hard pressed to think of any friends whose socialism is not accompanied by a heavy dose of personal angst.

Internal disquiet projected on the outside world.

Thoughts?
 
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swears

preppy-kei
Recent posts support those who might posit a positive correlation between mental/emotional instability and hard left political views (every HMLT post?).

Personally, I'm hard pressed to think of any friends whose socialism is not accompanied by a heavy dose of personal angst.

Internal disquiet projected on the outside world.

Thoughts?

In the current political climate, you can hardly blame a left winger for feeling down can you?

If you are apolitical, then there is a lot less to depress you. At the moment I'm trying to avoid broadsheets and radio 4, too much there to stir up powerless/misanthropic feelings.
 

bassnation

the abyss
In the current political climate, you can hardly blame a left winger for feeling down can you?

If you are apolitical, then there is a lot less to depress you. At the moment I'm trying to avoid broadsheets and radio 4, too much there to stir up powerless/misanthropic feelings.

i once knew a hardcore punk in cardiff who was very involved in many different political causes, animal rights, burma all kinds of shit. he was so immersed in the misery of others that it started getting to him, felt that it was impossible to make a difference. he ended up topping himself. i think he had other problems to be perfectly honest but my view is that yeah, theres bad things going on the world but theres also positive things to be thankful for too - one person might not be able to effect a change but you can't let that utterly defeat you as it has always been thus.
 
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nomadologist

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Recent posts support those who might posit a positive correlation between mental/emotional instability and hard left political views (every HMLT post?).

Personally, I'm hard pressed to think of any friends whose socialism is not accompanied by a heavy dose of personal angst.

Internal disquiet projected on the outside world.

Thoughts?

my obvious death wish predates my political "views" by about 10-15 years, but yeah. i think you're probably right.
 
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nomadologist

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My thyroid was checked out a while ago, result being that apparently it is absolutely fine. Apparently my "cycles" are too brief, too rapid to count as Bipolar. But yeah brutal depression sometimes involved for sure. Also my mania never reaches the point of hardcore bipolar mania with the psychotic visions and stuff!

you are one of the lucky ones! still, it's not easy even if it's brief. that's what i went throught when i was really young. sucked.
 
Recent posts support those who might posit a positive correlation between mental/emotional instability and hard left political views (every HMLT post?).

Personally, I'm hard pressed to think of any friends whose socialism is not accompanied by a heavy dose of personal angst.

Internal disquiet projected on the outside world.

Thoughts?

Thinking is what is completely absent from your posts here, mixed_biscuits. If I were to personalise your contributions here (including your recent one, where you agreed 100% without qualification with Vimothy's politically-naive adolescent racist diatribes), it would suggest to me that you are very comfortable with what you imagine to be the 'outside world' (with capitalist-constructed realism, with the unexamined acceptance of existing power structures as natural and normal and as things should be, any questioning of which constituting 'evidence' of mental/emotional instability, precisely the same form of lethal hysteria which both the Nazis and the Stalinists took to its ultimate conclusion).

So let's then de-politicize all social and power relations and stigmatize all those who question your political psychopathology as 'suffering' from 'personal problems', as having a heavy dose of 'angst' and 'disquite' to be cured by a few visits to a Nu-Labour-friendly ego-psychotherapist. Your utterly vicious attempt to pathologize anyone who disagrees with your [and basket-case Vim's] reactionary and sickeningly racist prejudices [informed, as is the norm, by bland, ever-repeated ideology rather than experience or reason] suggests that it is you who is in urgent need of some serious social counselling. It is extraordinary to witness here the sheer extent of political decline in Britain (and I'm assuming here that Mix-the-cookie and Vim-kitchen-cleaner are British residents), where it is now routine to slanderously marginalize whole sections of society, to attribute any rational concern with 'socialist' issues to mental 'disease', to someone having 'personal problems'. Hilarious ... you forget that many Western countries still have legislation criminalizing incitements to racial hatred and violence, which is what Vim's and your posts here amount to ...

[And the bad, traumatic news: 'personally' you don't even exist].
 
@Gek

This sounds a little like mania, but the level of anxiety accompanying your mania either means it's not full-blown mania, where you completely lose any sense of what you "ought not" to do), but hypomania. or you're a pretty textbook bipolar II and, having gone untreated, it's seriously affecting your life (which often happens to those with bipolar II). it really depends on whether this mania lasts at least a couple weeks at a time and is followed by similarly long episodes of depression where you can barely move (this is what i get).

you might at least talk to a doctor. i've also heard people with excess adrenal gland production having similar issues to yours. or super fast metabolisms.

With the proviso that I am always extremely cautious when it comes to making diagnoses or arbitrary recommendations via an internet forum based on minimal evidence [we've had posters here in the past cluelessly rushing forth (suggesting an anti-social neurosis on their part) 'recommending' the most violent and extreme courses of action, everything from 'sectioning' to electro-convulsive-therapy on the basis of the most minimal and deeply suspicious accounts of someone's behaviour) with suggestions as if they had such vast authoritative knowledge both of the ailment and of the 'patient' when in fact all they are doing is revealing their own innate, socially-hostile intolerances for what they don't understand [and don't want to understand], coming across as having the same secretly-vicious retro-sensibility as a News of the World hack. [And to be honest, I'd be much more worried about posters like Vim or Mixed-biscuits, whose warped ideologies have seriously destructive social effects on the wider society].

Gek's 'ailment' sounds perfectly harmless and probably has fairly reasonable psychic, social and physical explanations, nothing to get over-anxious about, or resort to self-reflexively instant 'symptom-diagnoses mapping' from the latest edition of the DSM manual. The level of radical mis-diagnosis [and dismissive non-diagnosis - M.E. for instance] of assorted posited illnesses and behavioural idiosyncracies is so unbelievably vast in a society so crippled by vested financial-social-political interests that it becomes so easy - effortless even - to become part of the problem oneself [And related to the inheritance tax thread, I'm sickened by the number of people I come across who actively transform and medicalise their elderly parent(s) into non-compus-mentus incompetents ("She's getting a bit forgetful, obviously it's Altzheimers, maybe it's best if we put her in a home") just after the Will has been finalised, shunting them off into a nursing home in full knowledge that it will kill them within a few months (who hasn't an elderly relative to whom this hasn't happened?), dying of chronic social dislocation, abandonment, isolation and loneliness, so that they can quickly and greedily get their hands on their parent's house and assets. This practice is so widespread as to be almost invisible. Who is the genuinely sick, psychologically damaged party here? And what underlying socio-economic structures are directly implicated?]

[BTW, Akathisia is not a 'natural' condition, it is a term attributed purely to certain auto-manic side-effects of particular psychotropic drugs, though it may indeed exhibit symptoms indistinguishable from other conditions].

That said, if I were living in Britain, and it were a psycho-socially civilized society, I would not hesitate to have the Vims of that world summarily 'sectioned' ... :cool:
 

mixed_biscuits

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Thinking is what is completely absent from your posts here, mixed_biscuits. If I were to personalise your contributions here (including your recent one, where you agreed 100% without qualification with Vimothy's politically-naive adolescent racist diatribes), it would suggest to me that you are very comfortable with what you imagine to be the 'outside world' (with capitalist-constructed realism, with the unexamined acceptance of existing power structures as natural and normal and as things should be, any questioning of which constituting 'evidence' of mental/emotional instability, precisely the same form of lethal hysteria which both the Nazis and the Stalinists took to its ultimate conclusion).

So let's then de-politicize all social and power relations and stigmatize all those who question your political psychopathology as 'suffering' from 'personal problems', as having a heavy dose of 'angst' and 'disquite' to be cured by a few visits to a Nu-Labour-friendly ego-psychotherapist. Your utterly vicious attempt to pathologize anyone who disagrees with your [and basket-case Vim's] reactionary and sickeningly racist prejudices [informed, as is the norm, by bland, ever-repeated ideology rather than experience or reason] suggests that it is you who is in urgent need of some serious social counselling. It is extraordinary to witness here the sheer extent of political decline in Britain (and I'm assuming here that Mix-the-cookie and Vim-kitchen-cleaner are British residents), where it is now routine to slanderously marginalize whole sections of society, to attribute any rational concern with 'socialist' issues to mental 'disease', to someone having 'personal problems'. Hilarious ... you forget that many Western countries still have legislation criminalizing incitements to racial hatred and violence, which is what Vim's and your posts here amount to ...

[And the bad, traumatic news: 'personally' you don't even exist].

Surely this post just proves my point?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"Surely this post just proves my point?"
I don't think that proves your point at all. However nuts one guy is you can't generalise to the whole left.
In this one case I guess it is interesting to speculate as to whether the kooky far-left pseudo-intellectual nonsense broke his brain or whether a broken brain lead to his obsession with that nonsense. What was symptom and what was cause we'll never really know but personally I'd go for the latter way round. One thing is obvious, for someone with those kind of problems reading too much of that stuff is not going to help and the results are unfortunately rather plain to see: seeing racists that aren't there, repetitive use of meaningless phrases as though they win an argument, frustration when somehow someone fails to see his point of view, threats and - arguably saddest of all - the description of "fun" as "conformist capitalist nonsense".
 

gek-opel

entered apprentice
I'm still amused by the fact you think internet affect is any way to judge someone (ie- HMLT's occasional net-belligerence means he must be mentally ill... which actually entirely proves the point he has been making on this thread- that mental illness as category under capitalism can be used to contain almost anything dislikable or antithetical to the hegemony of the day, or as you put it Rich- "fun")
 

zhao

there are no accidents
critical stance arises out of discontent. simple fact though.

but i think well adjusted = asleep these days.
 
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