Funky/London/UK House
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here's marcus and ranking from today. was a wicked evening of music on rinse with n-type and walsh doing ukg the show before as well
here's marcus and ranking from today. was a wicked evening of music on rinse with n-type and walsh doing ukg the show before as well
UFO over easy
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obviously house music is this huge thing, and this question is probably quite naive
i know at least in terms of european stuff vinyl is still quite dominant and freshness doesn't seem to be an issue so much, it seems more about playing long, varied but structurally coherent sets
im sure it's been talked about before but to what extent do you think the uk house scene could overlap with other more established house scenes, is that even desirable, and does format have a role to play in that? at the moment it's being distributed in the traditional way for underground uk dance music, and that familiarity must be at least something to do with people making garage/grime parallels aside from the actual sonics.. the digital distribution is quite diy at the moment too (other than juno but there's not a lot on there), it's quite hard to get with bigger sites without a distro backing you
if getting wider distribution becomes easier as boomnoise was saying upthread how might that affect things basically, how would the growth of the underground uk stuff differ from the growth of dubstep for example, considering house music is global already.
ramble.. apologies for any big generalisations
unconnected but a reason that more vinyl would be nice - screenshot of a waveform of something i bought online today. i ran it through the 'detect audibly noticeable clips' preset in soundforge, the markers show where they are. it's pretty extreme, clipping almost constantly, even in the intro. most digital stuff i've bought online looks like this too
i know at least in terms of european stuff vinyl is still quite dominant and freshness doesn't seem to be an issue so much, it seems more about playing long, varied but structurally coherent sets
im sure it's been talked about before but to what extent do you think the uk house scene could overlap with other more established house scenes, is that even desirable, and does format have a role to play in that? at the moment it's being distributed in the traditional way for underground uk dance music, and that familiarity must be at least something to do with people making garage/grime parallels aside from the actual sonics.. the digital distribution is quite diy at the moment too (other than juno but there's not a lot on there), it's quite hard to get with bigger sites without a distro backing you
if getting wider distribution becomes easier as boomnoise was saying upthread how might that affect things basically, how would the growth of the underground uk stuff differ from the growth of dubstep for example, considering house music is global already.
ramble.. apologies for any big generalisations
unconnected but a reason that more vinyl would be nice - screenshot of a waveform of something i bought online today. i ran it through the 'detect audibly noticeable clips' preset in soundforge, the markers show where they are. it's pretty extreme, clipping almost constantly, even in the intro. most digital stuff i've bought online looks like this too
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nomos
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^^^^ this has been bothering me a lot. the standard seems to be to max out the volume and kill the dynamics. my ears always ring after i've been in my headphones for a while. i've bought a couple of tracks that, if you zoom out on the waveform, look like a thick, solid bar. vinyl rips have trouble sounding loud enough next to them. makes no difference whether you buy from uk funky or someplace bigger like juno.
Grievous Angel
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That's what limiting looks like.
In Live, just take the level of the file itself down.
In Live, just take the level of the file itself down.
UFO over easy
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even if you do that you'll still be able to hear the clips, they'll just be quieter.. it also won't do anything to restore the dynamic range. it's not just limiting either, or it wouldn't clip - limiting to 0db you could compress it into a solid block and it still wouldn't clip.
limiting and compression is used in all mastering, it's all in the application
limiting and compression is used in all mastering, it's all in the application
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Well said that man!
''Digital Downloads haven't got the range darling'' as Shirley Bassey might say.
http://www.myspace.com/thekandytangerineman
slackk
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Owning the mp3 & vinyl of Gabryelle, I can say there's a clear difference between the two. Whether it's the mastering done at the pressing plant (I know Music House were always good for this vis a vis grime vinyl) or whatever, the vinyl is certainly a better final mix than the mp3.
I'm waiting to see how it goes, to be honest. If I can get away with just buying vinyl I'll do it; really not a fan of CD decks (and mine are crap) to be honest. There's just no satisfaction to it, it's almost too easy.
I'm waiting to see how it goes, to be honest. If I can get away with just buying vinyl I'll do it; really not a fan of CD decks (and mine are crap) to be honest. There's just no satisfaction to it, it's almost too easy.
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Elevated Levels and Feeline are in @ RedEye too now
http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/asp/search.asp?keywords=roska
can't beat their shipping prices
http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/asp/search.asp?keywords=roska
can't beat their shipping prices
slackk
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d malice - diamond in da ruff vol. 1
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rwf45i
1. Dubplate Malice - Believe
2. The Sunburst Band - Journey To The Sun (Dennis Ferrer Mix)
3. Dennis Ferrer Ft Karlon Brooks - How Do I Let Go
4. DVA - Soul Searcher (Marco Del Horno Mix)
5. Sacha - Senses
6. Kentphonik - Sunday Showers
7. Black Daylight - 1 Luv (Yoruba Soul Mix)
8. DJ Naughty - Quicktime (Roska Remix)
9. Magic Touch - Hips Go
10. Babyface Jay - Tribal Zone
11. Tadow - Stressed Out (Malice Dub)
12. Dubplate Malice - Gabryelle Refix 2
13. Crazy Cousins Ft Charlene Dance - Deja Vu
14. Roska - Elevated Levels
15. D-Malice Ft Diane & Monty - Give It To Me (Club Mix)
16. Hard House Banton - Zulu Form
17. DJ Footloose - So Dangerous
18. DJ Naughty - Quicktime (Lil Silva Slowtime Remix)
19. KCat - Get Off The Wall (Delio D’Cruz Mix)
20. Dubplate Malice - Funky Bounce
21. Crazy Cousins - I See You
22. TNT - Mind, Body & Soul (Inst)
23. Crazy Cousins - Bongo Jam (Invasion Crew Remix)
24. Unknown - Kaytronik Vs Fee-line (Malice Dub)
25. Dubplate Malice - Let The Music Takeover
26. Roska - Gone To A Better Place
27. Geeneus - As I
28. TT - Rushing
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rwf45i
1. Dubplate Malice - Believe
2. The Sunburst Band - Journey To The Sun (Dennis Ferrer Mix)
3. Dennis Ferrer Ft Karlon Brooks - How Do I Let Go
4. DVA - Soul Searcher (Marco Del Horno Mix)
5. Sacha - Senses
6. Kentphonik - Sunday Showers
7. Black Daylight - 1 Luv (Yoruba Soul Mix)
8. DJ Naughty - Quicktime (Roska Remix)
9. Magic Touch - Hips Go
10. Babyface Jay - Tribal Zone
11. Tadow - Stressed Out (Malice Dub)
12. Dubplate Malice - Gabryelle Refix 2
13. Crazy Cousins Ft Charlene Dance - Deja Vu
14. Roska - Elevated Levels
15. D-Malice Ft Diane & Monty - Give It To Me (Club Mix)
16. Hard House Banton - Zulu Form
17. DJ Footloose - So Dangerous
18. DJ Naughty - Quicktime (Lil Silva Slowtime Remix)
19. KCat - Get Off The Wall (Delio D’Cruz Mix)
20. Dubplate Malice - Funky Bounce
21. Crazy Cousins - I See You
22. TNT - Mind, Body & Soul (Inst)
23. Crazy Cousins - Bongo Jam (Invasion Crew Remix)
24. Unknown - Kaytronik Vs Fee-line (Malice Dub)
25. Dubplate Malice - Let The Music Takeover
26. Roska - Gone To A Better Place
27. Geeneus - As I
28. TT - Rushing
Cooly G is playing at this on sunday
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=51212410398
http://workweekly.co.uk/
i think i'm going to pass through
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=51212410398
http://workweekly.co.uk/
i think i'm going to pass through
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Algierstwin
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SERIOUSLY WAITING ON HER ep to get on to itunes, or at least some digital store until I can get into the capital.
big show the other night btw boomnoise. First and not the last time i'l be locked on.
Even worse are the tunes that are pinged to fuck, but not 0db.. they are flattened to -6db or something stupid, which means the mp3 is srewed anyway...
But, it will clip the Digital to Analog convertors on the CDJ. Your software won't tell you that tho. This is where it gets tricky. Differant digital meters measure differant things.
The scary thing about the pic you posted is if you did burn that 'as is' to CD & play it there's gonna be another layer of clipping generated as the D/A in the CDJ attempts to turn that mess into a continuous analog signal.
Post production as a whole is really suffering at the moment. I don't understand why people wouldn't put as much effort / care into a digital release as a physical one. Getting mp3s to sound good is as much (maybe not) a challenge as getting a good cut, where are the professionals at! I bought wavs off juno the other day & a couple tunes have (almost) the 1st 3rd of the first beat cropped off.. FAIL!
I think House music as a whole can absorb, reconcile almost any & all permutations. Obv. there is gonna be a glass ceiling for certain kinds of productions, but some european 'deep' house DJs aren't gonna play Lil Silva, ever, no matter how good the mixdown is. At the moment tho, the tunes sound like house, but are structually more like UKG, short, wheelable, intros & relativeally shorter tunes, I swear I could sort files by size & have a pretty good split between 'normal' house & Funky, so trad. house DJs are gonna have to think differant to mix them. I see abit of interest coming from the white-b-more-ish corner & people playing tougher, rap-i-fied US house beats.
The thing is tho, I think there are enough open minded people in house to make a decent audience if the distro is in place.