Trillhouse
Well-known member
Come on, that seems even more tenuous than your original point.
The insistence on not using presets comes from very much outside of Grime. Whereas, the culture that created and defined almost everything about sampling in the modern MPC style context, has strict self imposed rules. It's not hard to argue that most of the Chicago footwork producers (especially Traxman) have taken cues from that world and seem to see themselves fitting somewhere in it's lineage, because they long to do production work for rappers. So it's relevant, within that culture.
But all my original point was.. It's hard to come up within that world, that hip hop mindset, then to hear someone pretty lazily chopping up whole bars of the same samples that were rinsed out 15-20 years ago and think that shit is fresh.
Maybe Footwork producers don't care about that shit. Within the context of making trax for the battlegrounds, or wherever, it probably doesn't matter. Quite the opposite, as the dancers probably want to hear something familiar. But shit is bigger than that now. Most of the people who buy a Lit City release will have never even seen an actual battle except on youtube, even fewer will actually be dancers.
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I do see the point you're trying to make, the similarities, and why 'my' point of view can come across like whiny outsiders hating on the sound. There's just way too much context and history with sampling, especially those familiar samples, that just doesn't really compare to Grime and presets.
In the end Footwork doesn't begin and end with classic 70s soul samples and it's a perfectly valid viewpoint to like or dislike one part of the sound and discuss new releases within that context. Considering how dead this place has been lately, I don't find it pointless.
