Addiction

[IdleRich]

One time he phoned up saying his car had broken down and a police car had approached him so he panicked abd swallowed about 20 bags - am I gonna die?

 

[IdleRich]

He had this big rivalry with this guy Sumon that he'd nicked the phone from. He came round moaning one time "Everyone thinks Sumon is a nice guy but he phoned BT and got them to cancel my number just to fuck me" - I wad thinking yeah but you stole it off him in the first place.

 

[ver$hy ver$h]

He had this big rivalry with this guy Sumon that he'd nicked the phone from. He came round moaning one time "Everyone thinks Sumon is a nice guy but he phoned BT and got them to cancel my number just to fuck me" - I wad thinking yeah but you stole it off him in the first place.

That does seem nice by drug dealer standards. There are much worse things a rival might do to you, especially if you stole something off them.

 

[IdleRich]

Yeah but that was kinda how it always worked. You would have a guy with contacts and he would drive around with a car full of stoned Bangladeshis, each holding as much as they could in their mouth so they could swallow it if they got busted.
The main guy would get lazier and lazier and stay at home more and more delegating to his deputy. Then one day the deputy will nick all the numbers and text everyone going "Hey this is Jay's new number delete the old one" and they would become sort of friendly rivals, sometimes even sharing the same crew.

Though with Ali and Sumon one of them got hold of the other and gave him a proper shoeing at some point. I forget which way round.

 

[ver$hy ver$h]

Yeah but that was kinda how it always worked. You would have a guy with contacts and he would drive around with a car full of stoned Bangladeshis, each holding as much as they could in their mouth so they could swallow it if they got busted.
The main guy would get lazier and lazier and stay at home more and more delegating to his deputy. Then one day the deputy will nick all the numbers and text everyone going "Hey this is Jay's new number delete the old one" and they would become sort of friendly rivals, sometimes even sharing the same crew.

Though with Ali and Sumon one of them got hold of the other and gave him a proper shoeing at some point. I forget which way round.

That's what it was like with one of my weed guys. He was called 'Rob' but nobody ever really saw 'Rob'. You'd just get picked up by various people using the number. One time three guys turned up in this huge lorry I had to climb into the cab of.

 

[IdleRich]

It's like The Dread Pirate Roberts

 

[yyaldrin]

I've never shot anything, never will.

ain't the thing with crack that it hits very hard and quick and soon after you will want to smoke another bit? that's always what the people in documentaries say and what makes it so dangerous?

 

[IdleRich]

Yeah it's exactly that. Though strangely enough the first few times it doesn't seen to work. I thought that was just me but I've read about it several times since then. First few times you're going what's all the fuss about, two weeks later you're stealing your mum's jewellery.

 

[IdleRich]

I worked out that the best thing to do is do a line of coke as you smoke crack, that makes the drop-off a bit easier but is probably not a long term solution.

Valium/xanax etc combines well with it.

 

[yyaldrin]

i've always felt with cocaine that it doesn't work long enough i mean after 20 minutes or so you'll want to go again so i can only imagine how stressful crack would be then if it works even shorter

 

[IdleRich]

It's not really my thing to be honest but when I was with... my ex her habit was filthy. Cooking smoking, cooking smoking constantly.

 

[yyaldrin]

was she literally cooking or is that slang for taking some sort of drugs?

 

[IdleRich]

I mean she would buy coke (normally on tick) and cook it into crack.

I remember watching this episode of drugs Inc where there was this prostitute who would suck off random people for ten dollars and buy crack, smoke it, then rinse repeat. There was a scene where she was smiling at the camera going "oooh I love crack, I just love it". I thought that was crazy until I met this girl but her lust for crack was... I dunno unholy.

 

[yyaldrin]

oh yeah i didn't think about making it yourself, i thought most people would by it pre-cooked

 

[IdleRich]

oh yeah i didn't think about making it yourself, i thought most people would by it pre-cooked

Often didn't meet her standards

 

[IdleRich]

When I was with liza it was bad but at least once in a while, i do mean very occasionally, she would be the voice of restraint, saying something like maybe we don't need any more, perhaps we should sleep or similar,; when I met Donna that was out of the window there was no-one to say no, no hand on the tiller or adult supervision, just two dickheads out of control; more, do it again, yes.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Yeah it's exactly that. Though strangely enough the first few times it doesn't seen to work. I thought that was just me but I've read about it several times since then. First few times you're going what's all the fuss about, two weeks later you're stealing your mum's jewellery.

That's interesting, since I once made myself a very small amount of crack (from probably a third of a gram of coke, something like that) and smoked it, and while it certainly worked in the sense of having an effect - numb face, racing heart - I didn't really get anything in the way of euphoria. Whereas I'd been expecting this amazing high that I'd want to replicate straight away.

 

[IdleRich]

Totally my experience, also that guy who wrote Dandy In The Underworld, also other people i know, also other things I read but forget.

 

[IdleRich]

And yet...

 

[Mr. Tea]

I just put it down to never having really clicked with coke as this amazing experience you feel you have to do again and again. I've probably done it five times in the last five years (with Alice and Angus, you will be unsurprised to learn). I mean it's nice enough, but I find the main benefit is to extend your stamina for staying up talking and drinking all night.

Whereas I can't ever imagine getting bored of MDMA, but thankfully it's not the kind of drug that most people feel they want to do day after day.