Ambient jungle = best dance music ever

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0bleak

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You're something of an anomaly, @thirdform in that you also outdo me in your appreciation of the synthetic with dance music with a seemingly wider appreciation of dnb from neuro to the kind of stuff you posted about regarding Raiden.
 
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luka said:
it could be that you don't have 'a soul' meaning you are oblivious to its value?
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Hey, i just remembered something last night that might go some way in answering this question.
People used to call me the funky drummer like james brown's drummer (although I would never claim to be as good! - my nvld prevented me from ever being truly great), and i used to produce beats and music and even got pretty good at scratching considering the crappy turntable I had, and there were a lot of people that wanted to collaborate with me for those reasons - from doing several collaborations at talent shows, people using my beats in class assignments to lay down rhymes about a subject, from the teacher in band when I was 11th grade giving me free reign to play whatever I felt on the drum set, to also other teachers that gave private music lessons that would have me be the drummer in their student recitals, to people taking me to recording studios with them to lay down drum tracks for their rhymes (whether it was stuff I played or programmed), to people taking stuff I programmed in the drum machine to to the local college radio station to freestyle over... just some things I remembered off the top of my head.
How about you? :p
 
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version said:
I think there's a potent future-nostalgia synthesis when a vision that grabbed you recedes into the past. Hangs over you like a dream. I still get a pang of excitement looking at a still from Alien or clips of the Terminator. I'm aware they're old, but they don't feel any less futuristic to me. The imagination factor's key. We've drones zipping all over the place, laser weapons, touchscreen phones, but they don't feel like "The Future" the way some tune or film from '98 does. They don't have the pull.

Part of it's down to contemporary depictions not feeling that distinct from the present. You look at some SF and the decor isn't far off a rich person's minimalist townhouse. The current vision's a dematerialised future. A sterile future. The older visions could be tactile and rugged. That's partly why they stick.
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I think a lot about alien and terminator too. It's like they've written the future with those 2.

Almost like we are following them as blueprints.
 
0bleak

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The people who have steered the Nuum discourse are not necessarily Dancing People, and actually what made Ambient Jungle so special was that it was the greatest dance music ever. The separation between the bass/drum and those gorgeous arcs of ectoplasm was sublime on the dancefloor. Your head was in the clouds, your limbs in a rapture of clockwork.
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I suppose it's just my weirdness again, but I don't get the urge to dance from just one part of the tune.
The whole feeling of a tune also has a lot to do with it.
The heavy ambience sucks out the dancing energy (for me at least).
 
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actually, I think I'm onto something with that
why are breakbeats called breakbeats? 'cause that's when you separated the wheat from the chaff
sometimes, too much is too much and takes away from groove's momentum
why, in the infancy of hip hop were "breakers" drawn to when the DJs would play the "breakbeats" by looping two copies of the same record?
why were people dancing and freestyling when I was playing funky beats by themselves?
when people wanted to collaborate with me and/or record in the studio, it was usually only just the drums (or programming on the drum machine) they cared about
 
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thirdform

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michael said:
In the Woebot thread someone linked to a FACT interview with the man, where he says:


As a soft-cock from way back, I was pretty impressed by someone's willingness to say this. For all the talk of stuff like "feminine pressure" there does still seem to be this desire for shit to be (only) tuff / ruff / rude ... and I do reckon that gets pretty boring to dance to.

Mind you, not a big fan of ambient jungle stuff myself... just thought it was an interesting point to think about.
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literally no idea what the fuck woebot is on about here, and I respect the guy a lot. but no clue.

The ambient jungle sound was a logical progression (hrmph) of the whole 70s-80s soul scene. crackers, global village, then gossips/spats into trevor shakes. Garage was also part of that progression.

Not sure wtf the indie softcock aesthetic has to do with it at all, more white middle classes ruining music for everyone. As Rowan Atkinson toby the devil said, will you please stop screaming!
 
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i have nothing against ambient jungle or ambient anything
i'm just questioning "best _dance_ music ever"
 
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thirdform

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0bleak said:
I suppose it's just my weirdness again, but I don't get the urge to dance from just one part of the tune.
The whole feeling of a tune also has a lot to do with it.
The heavy ambience sucks out the dancing energy (for me at least).
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Actually it kind of adds energy. a lot of 92 hardcore is so maximal that sometimes there's too much going on (in a good way of course) but it's not very slick and doesn't swing. Ambient jungle was a recalibration back to that cool club modernism from the rave back into the whole low profile west end thing.

So again, no idea what people were talking about up thread. completely detached from reality, barmy.





You rarely get this kind of swing in 92 hardcore.
 
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I guess it depends on what kind of "ambient jungle"
the Tokyo Dawn tune version posted above has big cloud hanging over it (fluffy or not) that zaps the dancing energy out for me
 
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0bleak said:
I guess it depends on what kind of "ambient jungle"
the Tokyo Dawn tune version posted above has big cloud hanging over it (fluffy or not) that zaps the dancing energy out for me
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I love that scott tune but its good as a set breather. version tends to have a taste comprised of set breathers.

Too much life in the pixilated world of boomkat I think.




 
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thirdform

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0bleak said:
I guess it depends on what kind of "ambient jungle"
the Tokyo Dawn tune version posted above has big cloud hanging over it (fluffy or not) that zaps the dancing energy out for me
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dialectical synthesis, ambient vs techstep decide not to pursue the ill fated divorce and produce this child.



can't believe @craner hates this, no wonder he contracted herpes.
 
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