Music you are prejudiced against

[Corpsey]

Sometimes prejudices serve a purpose in freeing you from the obligation to engage with another load of shit when you've already got too much shit on your plate already with the music you've allowed yourself to like.

 

[luka]

I have irrational prejudices about every kind of music, including the music that I apparently like.

Mostly its race related. I just can't stand that ooga booga music.

This is how you put it the other day

 

[Corpsey]

My blood only thrills to the sound of the hunting horn.

 

[Corpsey]

I'm prejudiced against music that uses guitars as a general rule, with many exceptions. But any song that starts with an electric guitar I'm instantly sceptical about.

 

[Corpsey]

I still can't believe I said that and didn't get flamed to oblivion. I must have been a swaggering intimidating figure on here back in 2009. Laughing at craner for reading poncy books.

 

[luka]

It's a really gross thread. Dissensus was really bad in those days. Really really bad.

 

[Mr. Tea]

All Western music subsequent to Wagner has carried the ineradicable taint of Negro degeneracy.

Dude. I think we need to talk.

 

[thirdform]

i've listened to a decent amount of the record collector jazz canon. kind of blue, a love supreme, out to lunch, black saint and the sinner lady, etc.

none of those would make my top 10, with the exception of out to lunch.

this is the one you want, where cecil just turns comping into the piano into atonal cord clusters.

 

[thirdform]

Im gonna say it, its inevitable, all threads tend to autechre- the NLS sessions give me the same feeling as jazz. use the same language. the electric atonal late 60's 70s jazz atleast

yeah, autechre and jungle are both at that intersection between bebops transition to free(er) jazz forms. jungle is more bud powell (you can still dance to his music, but its got an absolutist breaking point) and Charlie Parker, whereas AE is more Ornette.

 

[thirdform]

alice coltrane was an epiphany. cosmic jazz is probably my favourite music of all. thing is, jazz (including it's blues and gospel roots) is the lifeblood of so much of 20th century music, and to take it out of the equation, more or less removes the dance element from dance music & all the harmonies and disharmonies which lay foundation of at least half of what people love here on d. if jazz hadn't happened we'd be probably be listening to german oompa shit or something.

Well yeah, trance and ebm essentially.

Although I do get annoyed at the way a lot of london people approach jazz, i do like my rare groove/jazz funk n all but that was the beginning of the end, really. you want lesser known good fusion, listen to joe farrell's first three lps, not fucking lonnie liston smith.

Or Hermeto Pascoal who could go borderline industrial. there's definitely an old age culture associated with jazz and it essentially ghettoised it. It's a shame because as a turkish music fan I want to hear more broken rhythmic forms but the idea of jazz electronic music people have is more about rhodes cords rather than jazz as a headspace, if u see what i mean.

 

[thirdform]

this is the jazz people should be talking about.

 

[WashYourHands]

Psytrance, so daft I don’t even know if I’ve spelled it correctly. Gatecrasher cunts, fluro zigzag paint on faces.

War crimes.

 

[mvuent]

someone should break down their favorite jazz sax solo for me and yyaldrin and explain whats happening, what you hear in it that you enjoy. without recasting it in light of a different genre if possible. and saying more than just "he blows with so much emotion man" or something to that effect. a listening map.

 

[mvuent]

if no one feels like doing that i'll unfortunately have no choice but to ignore everything else said and conclude that you're all pretending to like jazz

 

[version]

Listen to the Miles tune in my list.

 

[linebaugh]

someone should break down their favorite jazz sax solo for me and yyaldrin and explain whats happening, what you hear in it that you enjoy. without recasting it in light of a different genre if possible. and saying more than just "he blows with so much emotion man" or something to that effect. a listening map.

I dont particularly like sax solos as 'solos' for the most part. And with the jazz that I enjoy and what your primarily getting recommended- post bop stuff- what is a 'solo' is obscured because all the instruments are effectively soloing at the same time. I like them as pointillistic atmospheric elements, like tweeting birds.

 

[mvuent]

80. Miles Davis, Go Ahead John

The fucking guitar solo!

(6:36)

I used to exercise to this as I dislike anything with a regular rhythm which puts me off my own.

appreciate this for its audio animation qualities

 

[Mr. Tea]

Psytrance, so daft I don’t even know if I’ve spelled it correctly. Gatecrasher cunts, fluro zigzag paint on faces.

War crimes.

Aww come on though, there's that one really great psytrance tune - can't remember what it's called but you must know it, it goes diggerdy-diggerdy-diggerdy-diggerdy-DIGGERDY-DIGGERDY-DIGGERDY-DIGGERDY-diggerdy-diggerdy-diggerdy-diggerdy-DIGGERDY-DIGGERDY-DIGGERDY-DIGGERDY, you know the one I mean, right?

 

[mvuent]

I like them as pointillistic atmospheric elements, like tweeting birds.

once i start hearing instruments that way (programmatic, i guess you could say?) i just wish i was listening to electronic music, since i think it can be much more evocative and less limited by narrow physical constraints.

 

[WashYourHands]

someone should break down their favorite jazz sax solo for me and yyaldrin and explain whats happening, what you hear in it that you enjoy. without recasting it in light of a different genre if possible. and saying more than just "he blows with so much emotion man" or something to that effect. a listening map.

Why focus on the solo?



but if you wants solos after a philosophical insight into conducting, Face the Music