GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc
Benny Bunter
Well-known member
Yeah Earth were great weren't they? I left during one of the support acts to go to Backlash, and when I got there the guy on the door said he wouldn't be on and pointed to a little sign on the wall, that said he'd been arrested. Dunno whether someone had just stuck it there for a joke or what. Assuming that he really just couldn't be arsed to show up, its a bit pathetic to try and pass it off as some sort of Badman police incident
. Someone should be ashamed of themselves...Anyway, got to see Earth in the end so it was all tickety-boo
Going back through this thread I noticed I'd missed out on this. Any chance of a re-up fella?
this was/(is?) up on the heatwave website for a while...
it's not any more, but there's still a live link to it:
http://www.scandalbag.co.uk/web/audio/riko_buns_out_demon_on_rinse_fm_10_april_2005.mp3
not to mention three riko sets alongside the heatwave:
http://www.theheatwave.co.uk/music/item/rikodan2005/
http://www.theheatwave.co.uk/music/item/rikodan2006/
http://www.theheatwave.co.uk/music/item/rikodan2007/
benjybars
village elder.
is that like the rasta flow crew??
oi listen up everyone!
i got some old/rare grime & dubstep for sale...
http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQdfspZ1QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ32QQlredZAny00000QQsassZfrontlineskanker
get on it!!
sodiumnightlife
Sweet Virginia
why now and not when i have money to spend eh? A fair few things there I wouldn't mind getting my hands on
Benny Bunter
Well-known member
Great! Thanks alot
benjybars
village elder.
why now and not when i have money to spend eh? A fair few things there I wouldn't mind getting my hands on
fuck it, just bid on them anyway! it's for a good cause..
dunno if skepta did it himself but the duppy remix cameo played last week is pretty great.
im kinda warming to chipmunk, double s, and ice kid and these new kiddies (even if they are a bit grime-teenybopperish at times). i think theyre good mcs generally, id prob like them more tho if they did more uptempo songs. im a proper grime purist i know but for me, the speed is what makes the music. when i hear terror danjah talk about wanting to diversify and show grime can be slower, i still just think 'whats the point?!'
im kinda warming to chipmunk, double s, and ice kid and these new kiddies (even if they are a bit grime-teenybopperish at times). i think theyre good mcs generally, id prob like them more tho if they did more uptempo songs. im a proper grime purist i know but for me, the speed is what makes the music. when i hear terror danjah talk about wanting to diversify and show grime can be slower, i still just think 'whats the point?!'
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benjybars
village elder.
every double s tune i've heard (admittedly only about 7) has been proper up tempo stuff...
Virtually any track you listen to is still around 140 bpm. The only exceptions are when people like Bashy or The Movement go over hip hop, or when it's a little faster in the case of Skepta's In A Corner. It's just less about the frenetic garage snares and fast basslines now, and has got a bit more half-steppy. You still get your "forward" style tracks like Steam Train, Wakadoosa and the What Did He Say inst. though.
That dark garage influenced "sub-low" sound is basically non-existant now though.
On a double s mixtape I have he's spitting over 'this is why im hot', except hes renamed the tune This Is Why Im Sho'. I like his flow, but this track is embaressing.
Words can't describe how psyched I am for this. It is going to be brilliant. "Commandments" is so so fucked, one of the dirtiest grime tunes I've ever heard in my whole time listening to this shit, pure darkside vibes and not in the cheesy HOP OUT THE WHIP AND LENG A MAN DOWN way. Ghetto has been improving as an MC by the minute, it's like every time I check back he's twice as good as he was.
You'd all do good to cop this when it drops.
For anyone who hasn't heard the track Commandments yet, http://pitchforkmedia.imeem.com/music/R_OWNdaL/ghetto_produced_by_lewi_white_commandments/
I think you might need to register to hear the whole thing, but it is well worth your time
Also there is a link to another massive track "Mountain" on Hyperfrank's blog right now: http://hyperfrank.blogspot.com
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rockypoppy2
wtf?
i cant believe how much ghetto has gone up in my estimation. i used to think he was so shit. now i think he can be mildly annoying at times, but also really good. that commandments track just kills everything dead. ive been wanting lewi white to do more shit since the graveyard ep back in the day - the guy is just too much.
rockypoppy2
wtf?
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=125853626
nu brand flex - a new grime crew, amalgamation of some north south talent.
the nu brand anthem is really good - but the remix is even better
one of the mc's actually has a line that goes
cough cough,
excuse my cough,
guns get drawn
like vincent van gogh
as if grime couldnt get any more reductive lyrically - his hypest bar is a cough! fucking brilliant
nice to hear maxwell d out and about again
nu brand flex - a new grime crew, amalgamation of some north south talent.
the nu brand anthem is really good - but the remix is even better
one of the mc's actually has a line that goes
cough cough,
excuse my cough,
guns get drawn
like vincent van gogh
as if grime couldnt get any more reductive lyrically - his hypest bar is a cough! fucking brilliant
nice to hear maxwell d out and about again
rockypoppy2
wtf?
i dunno - that striver track Sly Shuttle still keeps coming up with new vocals. its pretty old i guess, but really gutter. not quite as underproduces as say Ice rink, but maybe more threatening.
yeah ghetto has gone up in my estimations too. i dont know if double s' songs are all at 130bpm or not but its easy to program at that speed without it sounding like its that fast. ive only heard a couple of his songs though. i ordered a load of grime mix cds from ukrs over the weekend to get myself up to speed.
anyone hear jme on westwood last night? thought it was funny how he sounded like he wasnt ever really impressed by westwood (didnt even laugh when westwood said 'you cant be in two minds about coming on westwood!' about wiley lol).
anyone hear jme on westwood last night? thought it was funny how he sounded like he wasnt ever really impressed by westwood (didnt even laugh when westwood said 'you cant be in two minds about coming on westwood!' about wiley lol).
An interview with Durrty Goodz. He has a very bizarre attitude towards what sort of music he makes.
Interviewer: "[Axiom EP] is 100% grime as some would call it. Was that a specific sort of decision? Was that on purpose?"
Goodz: "No no no no, I would say it's not even say it's 100% grime; I'd say it's 100% hip hop still... it's 100% hip hop because I brought dubstep mans together, grime mans together, and hip hop mans together all on one CD, and the whole CD is about peace, love and unity innit. And that's what hip hop is - that's what real hip hop is anyway."
The point he makes is that he just spits on whatever beat is hot on the streets, regardless of what speed or genre it is. I can appreciate that if he is actually able to keep the quality high (unlike Dizzee), but Axiom EP couldn't be considered hip hop in any way at all - not in its content, not in its delivery, not in the music... he's got a song on it commenting on garage's history on it for fuck's sake.
I think the problem with grime is that people are too reductive ("that's not grime, that's bait hip hop"), and it scares off the more open-minded artists or ones with different influences into saying they aren't grime for that reason. Yes, Wiley is grime, but when Wiley goes over electro on Wearing My Rolex, that is grime too. Dizzee is grime, but when he makes a shitty pop and hip-hop influenced album, although it is awful, it is still grime to me. Likewise, it's not hard to say that when Goodz comes back strong with a CD full of grime and dubstep production... it's probably because he's a grime MC.
I mean, he is going on about how he chose all these underground grime and dubstep producers because he "felt like these were the guys that were bringing it... bringing the basslines and the melodies that could lift up a whole club."
"That's what real hip hop is anyway."
Bollocks. You are making real grime music, Goodz.
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