But at the same time, they're building this clan of producers who may not say it, but behave as if they're on a different goal than say... Even people like Neptunes, or Timbaland, who are musical innovators. They do 'jam sessions' on instruments, they carry themselves and take great pains to portray themselves as 'musicians'. It's distressing for me, because usually when the hip-hop producer tries to grasp 'musicianship', he fails drastically (Case in point being a good half of Rza's output.) I could understand Flying Lotus having this mentality, because of his background and his newfound success. But for the 'other guys', it reeks of almost arrogance.
Well being different people from the neptunes they probably do have a different goal yes, clearly they're not staking their territory as r and b producers either, or hip hop producers for that matter, nor does their output suggest this really.
Some of them might know how to play instruments, so do you think they should stop being so arrogant as to play instruments, when what they really should be doing is hip hop or r and b, i'm really confused by your argument to be honest.
Playing instruments and also electronics works for alot of people, sadly not for squarepusher who's the usual contemporary strawman in this kinda argument, but lots of others.
I've not seen any actual evidence of this portrayal as being jazz musicians etc that makes up your argument, although clearly it's a massive influence (so what), but lets see how it pans out, i'm not a massive fan of alot of this stuff, but flying lotus has done some killer tracks.
