what does productive dissent look like in these threads? any particularly successful examples?
not to imply im not interested or sympathetic to a classic luka and barty back and forth though
Pretty much every thread you see us trying to get off the ground and make productive he'll be trying to rubbish it and close it down by ranting crying writing gibberish posting irrelevant youtubes making bizzare accusations weird paranoid nonsense and scab picking in his ceaseless war of attrition against the very possibility of anything good from being created
I actually like Future and Huncho jack etc etc. I just like it in the context of radio pop music. that's what offends the bord so much. If I didn't like it like you or corpse or even patty then you wouldn't be saying any of this. what offends people is I'm coming in here and saying it's really not that deep and its pure modular music that just occupies an ambient zone. that goes against both the continuum (and soul/authenticity) orthodoxy of the mainstream being something the underground is in perpetual dialogue with. that simbiotic relationship between the two is much less overt these days.
As for the imperialist stooge comment: obviously I've never accused you of such a thing but you can't tell me with a straight face that Queen or even Kate Bush back in the day weren't kitschy. Kitsch has been a cornerstone of popular music for over 50 years. really nothing that hasn't been said by your Adornos or Ben Watsons or Prhynn's. otherwise why should I care what music you enjoy? For crying out loud you're grasping for the most uncharitable reading of everything I've said here.
maybe when I make a joke/quip, which is all that was, you might do well not to jump to lad defence mode. noone is threatening your missus. Respectfully, for someone who is infatuated with drugs you can behave like the most obnoxious straight edger sometimes.
Anyway I did say I'm leaving this thread but just wanted to put my final salvo out there before leaving as I'm sure it will move on. I'm not one to stand on legs here but the lad banter vibe of said productive threads before I join in can be offputting.