Do we really want out?

[john eden]

Well that's just rude. (the K-punk nerd)

 

[john eden]

I mean headcases is probably fair enough.

 

[version]

Shiels is reading his book and bigging him up and he calls him an alt-right headcase.

 

[john eden]

What are we "disavowing" though? Is it St Mark?

Pretty pissed off at that. CCRU et al is more connected to the alt-right than this place, Josef excepted.

 

[shiels]

Well that's just rude. (the K-punk nerd)

well yes john i agree the problem might be that proponents like xenogoth and stan are nerds and goths and may possibly need irresistibly virlile and attractive proponents lik me

 

[john eden]

I guess if our crime is to carry on for too long so we can't be packaged in a book then it's a fair cop.

 

[RWY]

ok. let me frame the question in a different way. why do you post on dissensus?

Mostly for the banter - I'm not on here with the sincere belief that I'm engaging in discourse (or "praxis"), attempting to carve out my own niche in the hope of getting a book deal with Verso or Repeater.

 

[version]

I can't think of anyone on here I'd consider alt-right. I guess some of the humour can get a bit blokey and uncouth, but I don't think that's the same thing. I'm assuming he took the Your Journey to the Alt-Right thread at face value,

Your Journey to the Alt-Right.

It's not a coherent philosophy. It seems a lot of white men feel genuinely persecuted. At a personal level. It's invaded their consciousness and they can't get away from it and it's driven them mad. Which is obviously not ideal for anyone I can relate to this. Personally it felt like the...

dissensus.com

 

[catalog]

Just incidentally, but sort of related... On that gek opel podcast I linked to somewhere, the social discipline one, he says an interesting thing, which is that the left needs to stop worrying about the alt right, or the sharp celebrity type end of it, ie nick Land type area. And just worry about the plain old right instead.

So in terms of answering your question version, he would probably say "it doesn't matter"

 

[version]

Which question?

 

[IdleRich]

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What are we "disavowing" though? Is it St Mark?

He probably means we are disavowing our alt-rightedness.

 

[IdleRich]

I guess if our crime is to carry on for too long so we can't be packaged in a book then it's a fair cop.

Ouch.

 

[woops]

I guess if our crime is to carry on for too long so we can't be packaged in a book then it's a fair cop.

best thing about this forum these days

 

[shiels]

Mostly for the banter - I'm not on here with the sincere belief that I'm engaging in discourse (or "praxis"), attempting to carve out my own niche in the hope of getting a book deal with Verso or Repeater.

me too, you arent her for banter only and you wouldnt be here if prior or future book deals werent in play would you? so think about your own libidinal economy here, how you indulge the theatre and what your role is

 

[shiels]

whats 'sincere belief'

 

[RWY]

whats 'sincere belief'

They have deluded themselves into thinking they are engaged in an actual political project i.e. that the deployment of their words and argumentation through twitter and their books has actual political ramifications and effects, which, I would argue, is simply not the case.

 

[shiels]

Im here for the banter but if thats all it is ill stop posting right now

 

[RWY]

Hence my eyerolling at their deployment of the term "praxis" - the only person left in the world engaged in praxis is Third.

 

[woops]

if zer0 were serious they'd be doing @thirdform's book

 

[shiels]

so your point is about hypocrisy, its a variation of 'you use an iphone yet...' ie you benefit from this system / are implicated in this matrix of desire so any crtique is merely performative?