Russia Surrounded
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craner
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Clinamenic
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I'd just like to revisit what is perhaps the crowning pun of @Mr. Tea
Cope. At this point, this is like Hitler moving imaginary armies around the map table in his bunker. Their actual army is currently spending more time haunting lay-bys than washyourhands
Mr. Tea
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OOOOOH, that's a good point! There are bound to be some *killer* Downfall memes coming out of all this.
Leo
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they're getting stuck in the mud in Ukraine, I wouldn't worry about them being able to pull off anything like that.
WashYourHands
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Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
With a fence to restrain the enthralled spectators, I gather?
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Any thoughts on this?
Some people are saying it's been staged, which is plausible, but if that's true then I think it shows how desperate the government has got, since until now it hasn't even acknowledged there is a war, and has tried to dress it up as a "special military operation".
Some people are saying it's been staged, which is plausible, but if that's true then I think it shows how desperate the government has got, since until now it hasn't even acknowledged there is a war, and has tried to dress it up as a "special military operation".
wektor
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Described by friends of mine back home, it would seem the situation in Poland is currently more of a humanitarian crisis rather than anyone being worried about the conflict spreading.
I assume being a NATO member does provide some safety, but indeed the bombs are falling as close as 25km to the border. Rather not nice.
I assume being a NATO member does provide some safety, but indeed the bombs are falling as close as 25km to the border. Rather not nice.
Leo
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what's the prevailing conspiracy theory? that it was produced via green screen for social media but never actually broadcast? one commenter mentions Russian news is never broadcast live, always pre-recorded, so it would have been allowed to stand if it did air.
Mr. Tea
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I think it did go out on air. Her brief speech apparently mentions the "brotherhood" of Russians and Ukrainians, which has been a big part of Russian rhetoric (they're "liberating brothers" from a corrupt and oppressive government, not invading another country).
But I don't really see how this does the leadership any favours, really.
Clinamenic
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Quick 10 minute talk.
Clinamenic
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shakahislop
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would be a weird feeling if these bits and pieces in the news about the two sides finding some common ground on a peace deal means that this war is over quickly. i feel like everyone (myself included) has been gearing up for this to be a long drawn-out thing that takes years, thats felt almost unquestionable to me, i'd mentally readjusted to there being a conflict in that part of the world for the near future.
i wonder if the covid experience has had anything to do with this emotional and intellectual reaction, the realization that major things can change and get a lot worse.
i wonder if the covid experience has had anything to do with this emotional and intellectual reaction, the realization that major things can change and get a lot worse.
Mr. Tea
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Thing is, Putin has set out to capture or kill Zelenskyy, install a puppet government, and reduce Ukraine to a vassal state, with the ultimate intent of incorporating it into Greater Russia. Anything short of that - such as a compromise that lets Ukraine retain independence in return for Crimea and Donbas being seceded to Russia - will therefore be a total failure.
Weakness isn't a good look in any national leader, but it's fatal to anyone whose entire shtick is being a "strongman".