luka

Well-known member
realistically if you watch the film in search of nudity you will be pretty disappointed as it's quite fleeting and not very erotic.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy

The documentary about "Weekender" is alright (Zoom interviews with the cast/crew/Irvine Welsh etc.) and the music video "Weekender" itself is a great little evocation of the living for the weekend and feeling shit the rest of the time thing which probably still carries on today for people with more interesting lives than mine. I even quite liked the tune by the end.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Past Lives. It got quite a bit of hype, and I think it deserves it.

 

rubberdingyrapids

Well-known member
idk why i read saltburn was a marmite film. in the guardian they dedicated a whole piece to it as a film more about 'vibes' than narrative, which is complete crap and makes no sense.
it has 3-4 scenes which make it instantly memorable, which is more than you can say for most modern british films.
a film about class which wasnt predictable.
4/5.

also recommend rotting in the sun. more cocks than the mario movie had mushrooms. great little film with a twist i wont reveal as it will spoil it. thought it was going to be a boring self reflexive type of indie thing (its got the director playing himself) but it redeemed itself several times over. also has one of the best performances of any film ive seen recently by the actress playing the maid, just for the weirdness (well, frustratingness, depressivenesss, withdrawnness, irritatingness, as well as sympathetic somehow) of her character.

past lives was pretty special. cant fault it really.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I started watching Saltburn yesterday and got interrupted, it's late now so likely I will finish tomorrow but that means that I'm writing this review having seen only a third of the film - however, I'm enjoying It enough so far that I'm gonna gamble and place it in the unreservedly recommended section. So far it really is just about vibes - I'm not disagreeing with you Rubberdingy, it's just I haven't seen that far - but I am enjoying those vibes.

Growing up not far from Oxford I've been into the town a lot and I've been into various colleges or faculty buildings of the university for all kinds of reasons over the years - open days and suchlike, plus I had a gf doing a phd there etc. And just in a very basic way - there's no point denying it - I just seeing places I know well on telly or in films. Obviously that's not really a recommendation for anyone else though "check out Saltburn cos it Brough back some memories for me" but at the same time I can't deny that was part of my viewing experience and should be noted.

As well as the totally uncomplicated nostalgia there is something else that I'm just noticing consciously for the first time now. Thinking of it, when one walks through Oxford on a summer evening, crosses Magdalene Bridge or has a beer in the Kings Arms (which I think is where he first drinks with Sebastian Flyte and has to get help with the round in the film) or any other central pub, you do always have this feeling that half of the people there are students of the uni and thus have access to stuff that you don't. You walk to whichever pub you're going to and then you see a load of kids in dinner jackets and you realise that they are going to a party you could never go to; galling cos there's dick all else to do into Oxford in the evenings. And then on top of that it hits you that a load of the other kids are clustered in groups and, even without the posh clothings, you can tell they are students. So, particularly when you'er student age and you're going out in Oxford, there is a clear sense that the people in the pubs divide into two groups - peoole like me who would have a few beers and then either go into a shitty club or have a kebab and got a night bus home, or the gilded youth of the uni who could go... somewhere else - perhaps MB or whatever could share.

I don't exactly know what I'm saying here, just that the kind of excluded, divided nature of the main character's experience in the film is also something that I recognise from simply going into Oxford, so ultimately more nostalgia I think. Also, I have to admit, I knew that ninety percent of the stuff I was excluded from was really shit anyway so I never had like a massive resentment. I have lots of memories of Oxford that on paper sound quite bad but somehow they were never really that bad.

Anyway, I haven't said much about the film, but so far it's all cool - it could be called Going to Visit Brideshead Again After We Revisited It Last Time, and they pretty much acknowledge that (the main guy says that some Waugh characters were based on his family) which I think is the right way to play it. I suppose it's also the same set up as The Go-Between with the poor kid staying with the far richer family and being completely out of place, though in that he is literally a kid.

I'm hopeful from what I've read however that it's going to be a little bit different in the latter parts. In fact, in general, I feel a kind of air of menace, maybe that's too strong a word, it feels that things are going to get uncomfortable, so much so in fact that that was part of why I stopped watching, I could have stayed up later and watched a bit more but I had this very powerful feeling that there were going to be some deliberately cringey, awkward scenes of the kind I could grudgingly admit were good, but which I would have to grit my teeth and half close my eyes to get through them.

The only bits that I felt hit the wrong note were both in the same scene really, after Oliver Quick arrives at Saltburn he goes to meet the posh family in the drawing room or whatever they call it and a) they have never heard of Liverpool and don't know where it except probably it's a ghastly ghetto made up of tumbledown hovels and b) somehow he can hear them talking about him and completely ripping apart his impoverished character and family, no doubt made up of drug dealing alcoholic car thieves, for about fifteen minutes before he arrives in the room. Together both of these things stuck out to me, and that probably reflects well on the rest of the film, most of the other stuff is balanced pretty well and so Rosamund Pike wondering aloud about Liverpool for ages really sounded tone deaf, whereas in a lot of films such a scene would seem fine cos that's just the way that that sort of thing tends to be done.

The main actor is called Barry Keoghan, I first saw him in a film called Traders which I thought was pretty good if you ever get a chance to see it. Slightly artificial premise that I'm not sure I quite buy into but was willing to go along with; if I remember correctly it's that fat guy from Game of Thrones who realises that
a) after millions of lay-offs cos of the recession or the crash or something, there are a lot of former financial people who have a sum of money which is kinda like half of what they need to achieve their dreams, but which really is not of any use cos half a dream is the same as no dream.
b) These people with half-a-dream are risk-takers and so naturally enough they will be prepared to fight each other to the death to get the other half.
And so the film is a load of traders and brokers who meet online and then agree to kinda follow each other out into the wastelands around Liverpool each carrying a bag of money. They then fight to the death and the winner gets both bags. Barry Keoghan had a very small role in it and yet I instantly recognised him cos his face is so weird in Traders, but sadly it does appear to have normalled up a little bit now. I dunno if he's done something or if it's just that the proportions have come together a bit as he got older, but to me it's a shame, cos as I remember it before it was a genuinely strange face that made you wonder if he'd had his head squashed in an accident or something. We need more faces like that instead of the endless piles of "like Brad Pitt but not as good" etc
 
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