rrrivero

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Kingdom is good on that Night Slugs kinda vibe if you want a mix thats newer on that tip. His stuff and the bits on Fade To Mind bang in a really odd way.

http://www.thefader.com/2012/01/06/download-fade-to-minds-fader-mix/
This mix is great, esp. loving the Dave Quam tracks on there (17:52 ; 35:04), been a fan of his productions ever since he made a soundcloud (most of them have been taken off now)

Bok Bok, “Dark Hearts (Total Freedom Remix)” (23:08) is insane as well. This rnb vocals on heavy grime synths thing works surprisingly well
 
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jimitheexploder

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But he still would have fit right in at that time if he dropped out of knowhere like McFly. Its a natural progression, you can trace it thru Shed/2562 etc... He sounds fresh beacuse he's good and makes shit hot tracks no matter what you can attach the pallett too.
 

Roshman

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he's got a four track (i think) record coming on enchufada, it keeps getting delayed it seems, not sure why. then a 2x12" double-pack on local action later this year.

he's had a few remixes out recently, they're here: http://soundcloud.com/twilliamsmusic

This is great news, Hopefully the release on Enchufada is similar to his Getting Mine release, I've been rinsing that track from day.


Such a rude, gritty dance track. Gets a great reaction.
 

rubberdingyrapids

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who was making music like that at house tempo with big jacking distorted 909 hihats in 2007

i dont know. but those things are minor details in the context of the track overall. and even if he did have a house tempo and 909 hi hats back in 2007, i bet it would still have fit in perfectly with other developments happening back then. the bulk of the track is not that different from what was going on before, even if some of its novel touches would have made it stand out a bit. im generalising again, but i guess its similar for a lot of what is discussed here, a lot of these tracks are great and hard to dislike but often it seems like its just incremental differences to stuff people already know, whether dubstep or techno or whatever. but that doesnt mean it cant be good of course.
 

UFO over easy

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you're right that the general aesthetic is not radically new, that's obvious enough

but it's a dancefloor track, and the points of difference that i mentioned will entirely change the way people perceive it on dancefloors. you did not hear music like that played in the context of house and techno records in 2006-7 - it creates a cool kind of shock which is why i think it works so well as opposed to any number of the 140bpm 2006 dubstep tribute tracks floating around at the moment
 

SecondLine

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often it seems like its just incremental differences

genuine (i.e. not rhetorical) question from a young tyke - how often do radical stylistic breaks/leaps forward actually happen in any scene though? I mean is looking for them everywhere unrealistic and just setting yourself up for disappointment?

my understanding of the creative process is that musical styles are never plucked out of the air fully formed and so every innovation is really incremental - it's always a difference of degree, not kind, when it comes to levels of originality.

I appreciate that a lot of this thread is to do with radical breaks and the lack thereof.
 

rrrivero

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that peverelist mix for sonic router posted a few weeks ago turns all kinds of wonderful around the 28th minute or so. Was listening to it in the bus, all kinds of subdued screwfaces ensued
 

rubberdingyrapids

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genuine (i.e. not rhetorical) question from a young tyke - how often do radical stylistic breaks/leaps forward actually happen in any scene though? I mean is looking for them everywhere unrealistic and just setting yourself up for disappointment?

my understanding of the creative process is that musical styles are never plucked out of the air fully formed and so every innovation is really incremental - it's always a difference of degree, not kind, when it comes to levels of originality.

I appreciate that a lot of this thread is to do with radical breaks and the lack thereof.

thats a good question, and yeah, i think the minor tweaks can lead to something special/different, but here, it seems like the new tweaks are also from existing genres, theyre not brand new things like how say, spongebob did the metallic chainsaw thing for dubstep or pulse x stripped everything down to not much more than boing boing sounds. its more about interesting/unusual (well slightly unusual) recombinations. i suppose if objekt took the wobble parts of cactus out and replaced it JUST with 909 hi hats or something, that might be something interesting ;)
 
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