News of the World phone hacking scandal

Bangpuss

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Cos these guys can afford the most expensive lawyers known to man and the police can't afford to fuck it up? I'm happy to wait if it makes it more likely they'll get what's coming.

Also new evidence seems to be emerging all the time. On which note, anyone know anything about this? Tom Watson seemed excited about it the other day, but last night's Panorama was on Homs.

If they charged them with what they have, if any more evidence comes along, they can use that too. When I was nicked, they charged me before knowing how much evidence they had. Sure enough, they found it by the time it came to trial. But they already have buckets of evidence against this lot.

I sure would love to know what's on the laptop Brooks dumped in the carpark.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
The laptop was found the day after Brooks was arrested the first time. In other words she was back on the streets and instantly committed another crime. This kind of filth needs to be properly locked up. Hanging's too good for 'em.

"I sure would love to know what's on the laptop Brooks dumped in the carpark."
But if it's anything really bad they must have known that it was a ticking time bomb from their point of view.

Schadenfruede is a terrible thing and I don't even know what Charlie Brooks is accused of so I won't comment on this

Charlie Brooks, an Old Etonian contemporary of the prime minister, had been looking forward to attending the Cheltenham racing festival . Writing in a column published in the Daily Telegraph, he said that "the happiest moment of my year" was about three hours before the first race "queuing behind Alan Brazil for my, but not his, first pint of Guinness of the meeting".
Instead the couple spent at least 12 hours being questioned by detectives in different police stations, in Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire, regarding an offence that carries a theoretical maximum term of life.
 

Bangpuss

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Thurlbeck is easily the most archetypal criminal-looking of the bunch. He resembles a shovel-faced East End villain from the days of the Krays. Wouldn't be surprised if he'd used a dog or the threat of being fed to pigs, or the loss of fingers, to intimidate the witness. Although it appears to have been a more subtle form of scaring:

"Last week, Thurlbeck posted the home address of an executive on Rupert Murdoch's management standards committee in a blog post."

Anyone know whose address he published? Wouldn't be surprised if it's Will Lewis or one of the people on that committee who have forced News Int'l employees to hand over details of confidential police sources that led to the last round of arrests.

To be fair to Thurlbeck, I can't imagine many pro-News International vigilantes wanting to duff up someone because their hero Nev's got beef with em. And publishing someone's street name isn't a crime. It's standard practice in many news articles, to avoid mixing up identities.
 

Bangpuss

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OK, guess this is the Panorama that Watson was excited about Crackerjack

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/mar/26/news-corp-ondigital-paytv-panorama

How much more of this stuff can there be to come out?

I saw that. Shame they couldn't find the smoking gun of a News Corp requesting NDS hack and then fuck over their rivals.

I think the phone hacking was somewhat of a red herring. It's the computer (and TV) hacking, and the actual bugging of telephones so they could intercept live calls that will be the big breaker for the people found to be in on it. That's how the NoTW got Angus Deayton. They hired a BT engineer to tap his phone, or a public phone near his house, where they suspected he was arranging the rondez-vous with his mistress/hookers.

For me, that's a hell of a lot more intrusive than listening to voicemails.
 

Leo

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I saw that. Shame they couldn't find the smoking gun of a News Corp requesting NDS hack and then fuck over their rivals.

I think the phone hacking was somewhat of a red herring. It's the computer (and TV) hacking, and the actual bugging of telephones so they could intercept live calls that will be the big breaker for the people found to be in on it. That's how the NoTW got Angus Deayton. They hired a BT engineer to tap his phone, or a public phone near his house, where they suspected he was arranging the rondez-vous with his mistress/hookers.

For me, that's a hell of a lot more intrusive than listening to voicemails.

this dawned on me the other day while reading about all these scandals. who still gets voice mail messages? and when you do, how often is it more than "hey, it's joe, call me back"? not me, anyway. so yeah, hacking into/recording actual phone conversations would seem to be of a lot greater value.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"Anyone know whose address he published? Wouldn't be surprised if it's Will Lewis or one of the people on that committee who have forced News Int'l employees to hand over details of confidential police sources that led to the last round of arrests"
It said in Private Eye but I can't remember now. Think it might have been Will Lewis. Agreed it's a lot of fuss over nothing anyway.
 

faustus

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It said in Private Eye but I can't remember now. Think it might have been Will Lewis. Agreed it's a lot of fuss over nothing anyway.

It was Will Lewis. As Private Eye points out, while he was at the telegraph he was happy enough to post photos of MPs houses during the expenses scandal.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Now James Murdoch has stepped down as chairman of BSkyB - it's not been a good year for him.
John Prescott tweeted

Sky News reporting James Murdoch to step down from BSkyB chairmanship." < It's The Son Wot Lost It! #gotcha
 

Leo

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from the NY Times:
Sky News, which is partly owned by Rupert Murdoch, admitted it had hacked into e-mails but said the actions were in the public interest.

this is wild...they are so above the law that they get to decide what's in the public interest?
 

sufi

lala
best day yet according to guardian
paul mason reckons the mudroc strategy now is to have a minister, presumably that'll be hunt
galloway says they'll dump the newspapers next
so jr seems to have done much better this time round
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
So seems that Hunt was advising Murdoch and co behind the scenes on how to adjust their bid to make it go through. It gets better all the time. Haven't looked at the news today to be honest, has he resigned yet?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Still not gone...
Anyway, at the Leveson Inquiry Murdoch has claimed that Myler and Crone hid the extent of phone hacking from JM, Brooks and him. That's a bit different from saying that they just didn't tell them or JM didn't read the email he was sent. Is RM really saying that Myler and Crone hid the extent of the hacking from M Jr by cunningly putting the details in an email and sending it to him? Hiding in plain sight and all that I guess like in The Purloined Letter.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"We conclude, therefore, that Rupert Murdoch is not a fit person to exercise the stewardship of major international company."
 

Bangpuss

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She's being grilled like a piece of cheap meat. And that's appropriate.

I can't be the only one who thinks when this is all wrapped up, the Leveson Inquiry would make a great DVD. Three hours of your favourite villains being subjected to intense scrutiny under oath! Roll up! Roll up! It would be on my Christmas list.
 
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