Do we really want out?
shiels
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Just watched Bloody Sunday you should watch it you orange cunt @padraig (u.s.) loves it . Now watching raging bull on itv
He was a materialist in a very specific sense of the term though. The diagnoser, the psychoanalyst. Was unable to go all the way to the advent of coinage and how abstract philosophical thought arises out of the dawn of money and sedentary societies. This is because he was not particularly interested in history except if it could relate to the now on an immediate level - a bad whiteboy habit! Xenogoth has the same issue. ex-Smiths fan who through all his lot in with Corbyn and is now in crisis.
Like deep down kpunk was horrified of Marxism for this very reason. It conducting the transition from speculative philosophy to political economy. That it does have something to say about psychoanalysis being a philosophy. As @craner said, mark liked a good perge.
He was adamant, completely adamant to cling to philosophical idealism in the 18th century mould. He was an empiricist in the positive sense, sure, but he still ultimately believed that the essence of society could be gleaned from #ruminating
He was adamant, completely adamant to cling to philosophical idealism in the 18th century mould. He was an empiricist in the positive sense, sure, but he still ultimately believed that the essence of society could be gleaned from #ruminating
The point is not to say, art is bourgeois, like some crude teenager.
It is neither so banal nor simple. It is actually that when all is said and done, what constitutes art, what is legitimately seen as art and what is seen as mere populist culture is defined by the ruling class. hardcore-jungle is not really art in the sense that classical music or even punk is. Patti Smith was more an artist than DJ Hype who just had to do what he did out of his daily lived experience. Which precisely made him more radical than Patti Smith who was always about making statements.
It is neither so banal nor simple. It is actually that when all is said and done, what constitutes art, what is legitimately seen as art and what is seen as mere populist culture is defined by the ruling class. hardcore-jungle is not really art in the sense that classical music or even punk is. Patti Smith was more an artist than DJ Hype who just had to do what he did out of his daily lived experience. Which precisely made him more radical than Patti Smith who was always about making statements.
IdleRich
IdleRich
With hindsight I can see that, here in Lisbon, we made all our friends pretty much at after-parties.
Just before we moved here, or soon after, whatever, I read some kind of guide to Portugal or to moving here or whatever that said something along the lines of
This has not been our experience at all, and my guess is, that the person who wrote that, has never been to any after-parties.
When we had been here a month or two, we were at a crappy club and we got talking to this guy who invited us to this place Eka, which is basically a drug market with some music in one of the rooms that goes on until about 2pm I guess. While we were there we got talking to some more people, and one of them very kindly invited the two of us back to his place with four or five others. And since then we've been very good friends with that guy, attended hundreds of similar parties at his place and met thousands of people there, maybe like half of our friends. And he owns part of a restaurant with some other people which we also ate at a lot, and hung out at a lot, and met a lot of other people there.
Then, after DJ-ing at Le Baron and we'd become increasingly friendly with one of the bar-staff there - one time he invited us back to his place at about 9am where we met, well basically, the other half of our friends (or at least people who would lead us to the other half of our friends). That's like the gay half of our friends I guess.
But it's interesting, we have been (I'd like to think) pretty well accepted into both of those groups and we hang out with loads of them independently and so on. One time one of the guys pointed out something that we had not noticed - everyone else in that group where we were hanging out is Portuguese. Or there may be a couple of Brazilians or whatever... but we are very much the exception, so maybe there was some truth in that thing we read about Portuguese not tending to want to form friendships with foreigners. So thank fuck for after-parties I say.
IdleRich
IdleRich
I think that it CAN be depressing of course. If you keep having experiences that you think are gonna be life-changing but which are always forgotten the next day then of course you will feel bad. You can protect yourself in advance by telling yourself that the experience is gonna be shallow, but that doesn't feel like an amazingly satisfying strategy.
The thing is, sometimes it CAN be life-changing, well finding a new GOOD friend is that.
For me the problem is that many experiences that are potentially really good tend to have a possibility of going the other way. Like watching your team in the final - if they win it's great, best night of your life, smiling, hugging strangers etc but if they lose...
So I guess you have to gamble sometimes - take the risk, hope you will be lucky. And maybe with experience you can move the odds in your favour, get better at deciding how much of yourself to invest. Am I making sense?
IdleRich
IdleRich
I don't get this, what does it mean when you say the workers were all queued in advance?
Another way to put this is to say that this philosophical trend is more interested in understanding the world, but cannot make the next step to seeing how *the world understands itself*
So in that sense it still privileges the voice and written word.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I love this.
"FUCK YOU AND YOUR FASCIST MASK POLICY! Oh. Umm. How much are these? And do you take AmEx? "
luka
Well-known member
Course he hadn't it's not Marxist third hates anarchists he said he will drive the tanks over them himself