uk comedy is in a nadir

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Eg. "and for content it’s a world of sensitivity readers and release forms."
i'll accept that is in there but i feel like the points it makes regarding the incestuous nature of stand up comedy and the fact that there is a back and forth between politians and dem man far as i'm concerend the "sensitivity readers" are less the "woke" and more the crochety people who you see complaining about woke/cancel culture/political correctness in comedy (honestly those 3 terms are the same thing) the ones you go on that more tired than tired tangent about sensitivity and how its hard to remember all these new terms and names for things.

NOBODY liked that Spitting Image revival cause either the punchlines were too obtuse that you couldn't understand or they just flat out weren't funny, but look at the targets of the jokes they made alot of it towards university students & Greta Thunberg its easy to say its the fault of "the woke" cause they make a easy scapegoat the people who write this stuff have the establishment behind them but still talk like they're underdogs
 

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also i think the fact that we're all darting around is nothing ages WORSE than comedy and this is why all them comedians and comedy writers end up bitter because the change over in terms of what people might've found funny in the 00s is not the same to what people still find funny now.

fuckin Ace Ventura was one of the big many hits Jim Carey had back in the 90s when he was a hot property the only time i ever hear people bring that movie up now is either to bring up the Cannibal Corpse cameo or the really transphobic running gag (usually the latter now)
 

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alternatively: were the 00's a highpoint?
no because i want to not that you've picked 3 comedies from that era all British i don't know whether its convienience or just it flat out faded from your memory but you forget how Little Britian was a big success at the time not only that but Fonejacker,Balls of Steel i feel like The Inbetweeners was the last gasp of that kinda show

anybody here gone back and revisited Spaced?
 

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is it? i feel like this is a bit glib tbh

no country has a "good vibe" really however you're defining it in this instance
I struggle to put it into words, but there's something really desperate and mundane and claustrophobic about British TV for me that I don't get from anywhere else.

I can't often bear to watch it.
 

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also i feel like i have to bring it up but podcasts fucked up everything with stand up comedy both for fans AND the comedians
 

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I struggle to put it into words, but there's something really desperate and mundane and claustrophobic about British TV for me that I don't get from anywhere else.

I can't often bear to watch it.
cause alot of Britain is people mostly living their lives in desperation with a mix of claustrophobia and mundanity maybe more so the stuff that focuses on skewering that kind of thing, people trying to forget past embarassing sexual encounters and shite like that

@version American shows don't usually have that much of an acerbic edge on them as much as they try, do you tend to watch those kind of programms over british TV?
 

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cause alot of Britain is people mostly living their lives in desperation with a mix of claustrophobia and mundanity maybe more so the stuff that focuses on skewering that kind of thing

@version American shows don't usually have that much of an acerbic edge on them as much as they try, do you tend to watch those kind of programms over british TV?
I don't really watch any TV at all. I'll stick on Perry Mason or The Fugitive or whatever decent film is on Film4 or Talking Pictures while I'm exercising sometimes, but that's about it - I mostly stream films or watch stuff I've got on Blu-ray. The kind of stuff being discussed in this thread more or less doesn't exist for me as I'm so disconnected from current programming.

It isn't just about the TV though. I find Britain in general really depressing, from top to bottom, and seeing anything about it on TV just sucks the life out of me.
 

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The vast majority of the stuff I watch and read is not set in Britain. I find basically anywhere else more exciting.
 

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I don't really watch any TV at all. I'll stick on Perry Mason or The Fugitive or whatever decent film is on Film4 or Talking Pictures while I'm exercising sometimes, but that's about it - I mostly stream films or watch stuff I've got on Blu-ray. The kind of stuff being discussed in this thread more or less doesn't exist for me as I'm so disconnected from current programming.

It isn't just about the TV though. I find Britain in general really depressing, from top to bottom, and seeing anything about it on TV just sucks the life out of me.
see i get this going from Perry Mason a police procedural to something like Mrs Brown's boys must feel like culture shock

Also as far as Britian man look i don't know what to tell you part of me gets it but also some of this comes off like you've heard the 6000th twitter joke about how we say "ello guvnor" from Americans and something in you just finally snapped
 

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The vast majority of the stuff I watch and read is not set in Britain. I find basically anywhere else more exciting.
you're not the first person i've seen come like this one person i used to know who lived up North used to always talk about how much better American music was compared to british music but they admitted it came from a place of both buying into the images presented from there that make it look more appealing than what they consider to be the drab claustrophobic trappings of Britian and at the same time knowing that American doesn't look like that and that world only exists for an increasingly smaller number of people.
 

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Nah, it's not that. I can't really explain it. It's this feeling of everything being like a DFS sofa advert.
 

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Nah, it's not that. I can't really explain it. It's this feeling of everything being like a DFS sofa advert.
i mean again i feel like i get what you're saying but you might have to give me a little or maybe you just can't and its existential thing and you know it when you feel it

if that's the case then how the rass do you just get through the week living here? must wake up every morning fighting the urge to not pull your eyes out
 

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I don't mind British media, old or otherwise, that's set outside of Britain. It's Britain itself I find depressing. The architecture, the culture, the landscape.
 

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They're in that article you quoted liberally just a few hours ago
That article mentions the following people by name - Mark Thomas, Richard E Grant, Brian Cox, Geoff Norcott, Nazar Mohammad... I'm guessing that the last two whom he mentions as, respectively, "representing non-left views" and being killed by the Taliban are not the wokeists who are destroying British comedy... so, I take it hat you're saying UK comedy is controlled by the fearsome triumvirate of Mark Thomas, Richard E Grant and Brian Cox (does he mean the physics professor here or the actor?) and you're asking whether things would be better if they were banned.

Well, let me just say that I had no idea these guys were so powerful - it truly is a hidden power that I knew nothing about.
 
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