Hip Hop '11
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luka
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i know all the rap blogs by the way. i read a lot and rnt is a good example of what i mean, i would aspire to that rather than apeing a conventional prose style. i can ventriloquise any voice fairly convincingly so i know how easy it is and thats why i feel contempt for it. you can say interesting and intelligent things without using that voice. i think its dishonest and makes people look dopier than thy really are.
Corpsey
bandz ahoy
Haha sorry didn't mean to suggest this.
I think that certain styles of writing can't incorporate the same content, though. I feel I have to adopt a certain style at points in order to express the thoughts I've had about something... but again, what you're talking about is more putting on a false voice, right?
I'd be interested (if scared) to know what you think of stuff I've written. I always remember things you've said on here, I respect your opinion and the way you unapologetically express it - i.e. you wrote about Burial on here and described his use of sampled vocals as 'lachrymose' and joyless. Although I didn't necessarily agree with you, I appreciated the brevity/clarity of the judgement.
Did you ever do a blog?
luka
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fab highlights
(over a beat that haunted me bad whn i was 15. endless rewinds.)
the thing about noz is he has the chops. hes not a great writer but hes proficient, hs a professional. i think part of the problem im trying to describe is bloggers trying to ape this kind of easy profssionalism without having developed the chops which i presume comes with having had editors and so in his life and mayb just bing more literate/smarter than thee others, mayb even just being older, i dont know. its sort of sweet and endearing when people write bad attmepts at journalism in a way. like blackdowns blog is often like that.( i shouldnt say that but he dosnt read the rap thread so i thinkk its ok.) its sweet but its a bit sad at th sam time. its jus the kid that tries rally hard and is really earnest but not really very taleneted. o they gt a special prize at the end of th year. best trier award. thats laudable, thats admirable but who wants a bst trier award?
gonna move to eqstrian dro now.
(over a beat that haunted me bad whn i was 15. endless rewinds.)
the thing about noz is he has the chops. hes not a great writer but hes proficient, hs a professional. i think part of the problem im trying to describe is bloggers trying to ape this kind of easy profssionalism without having developed the chops which i presume comes with having had editors and so in his life and mayb just bing more literate/smarter than thee others, mayb even just being older, i dont know. its sort of sweet and endearing when people write bad attmepts at journalism in a way. like blackdowns blog is often like that.( i shouldnt say that but he dosnt read the rap thread so i thinkk its ok.) its sweet but its a bit sad at th sam time. its jus the kid that tries rally hard and is really earnest but not really very taleneted. o they gt a special prize at the end of th year. best trier award. thats laudable, thats admirable but who wants a bst trier award?
gonna move to eqstrian dro now.
luka
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i did a blog from 02 or 03 to abt 05. not long. i wrote about grime. probably that was th first grime blog. i never saw another. it doesnt exist anymore. you cant find it. im glad cos it was embaressing in a way bcasue i had this ideological commitement to knowingly exposing my gaucherie or something i think if i remember rightly. i wrot about grime and newham and put some funny poems and stuff in there that evryon hated. that made me put more poems in.
Corpsey
bandz ahoy
That's a shame about your blog, I'd like to have read it.
I LOVE this 'mo harlem mo southside' beat.
What's the original tune - Nas and AZ? Just been reading a thread on a rap forum about this tune, ppl saying Banks killed Fab/Vado. Thing is Banks sounds wheezy and weak on it, like he's smoked a thousand fags and is now evaporating from the throat outwards. Personally I think Fab sounds best on it (''we making movies you sit on couches pressing ''play'').
I LOVE this 'mo harlem mo southside' beat.
What's the original tune - Nas and AZ? Just been reading a thread on a rap forum about this tune, ppl saying Banks killed Fab/Vado. Thing is Banks sounds wheezy and weak on it, like he's smoked a thousand fags and is now evaporating from the throat outwards. Personally I think Fab sounds best on it (''we making movies you sit on couches pressing ''play'').
CrowleyHead
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Hey Luka? I'm actually one of said No Jumper writers. And no shots or anything like that because you're totally entitled to your opinion, but I was wondering if I did actually come across as talking down to people? Only because it's possibly the only time I'll probably hear proper criticism of all the writing I've done.
luka
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i dont know. i was talking off the cuff. i really dont like giving people feedback on what they do cos i come across as a patronising cunt and they get hurt. i refuse to do it now for my friends. but i dont know you so i will do it. i have read most things on that site. i just hav to work out whats you.....
Benny Bunter
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This is what I used to really like about Woebot's blog. Even thouigh half the time he'd be talking about some obscurity that I'd probably never hear, he'd never talk down to you about it, he'd just get straight down to the nitty gritty about what it meant to him and because it was in his own genuine voice it still kept you reading. plus it helps alot if you're naturally funny and talented obviously. Good writers can also go off on mad tangents and make outrageous comparisons and still hold your attention (see also Lester bangs), although I suppose you can't really do that nowadays if you're writing for a magazine. That was the reason blogs were so good, they had that freedom.
And like luka sez, if you don't have that sort of natural charm in your writing, you have to be a professional to get away with it, to justify your existence. There's nothing worse than poor journalism, or someone who thinks they're funny when they're not.
I only ever saw little snatches of heronbone quoted in other peoples blogs, but it looked great and unique.
Ah! Remember that massive hip hop epic that Woebot did once? I really miss blogs like that!
Also, wht are the best hip hop blogs other that CB? Can we have a definitive list please? Thanks
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luka
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best hiphop blogs are
nahright/2 dope boyz
these two dont talk about what they post. they just post huge amounts of videos/sound files. i guess you could include world star hiphop in this too. there is always good music to be found on these sites.
geoge bush money/no jumper
even though i was slagging them off a bit i really like them. they know more about hiphop than me or at the very leaest know about areas of hiphop i dont know about. they put effort into writing and thinking about music rather than posting videos. as i said before i was very pleased to read the reviw of gucci's chicken talk and the doe pesci appreciation. this kind of thing is great. the writing will get more confident anyway and i dont need it to be great in any case.
realniggatumblr/guttaboyjihad
these two are fans of 'aggressive content' they are pretty funny. lots of good scans from old rap mags and both have an identifiable aesthetic. you understand where they are coming from.
spaceagedancing
this is perhaps edging towards hipster crossover territory. it has a slicker aesthetic than most other blogs. theres another one i wanted to pair with this but iv forgotten the name of it. they are big main attrakionz/clams casino fans.
martorialist.
basically if you ever read hhc in the 90s you will be on familiar territory. no identifiable aestheitc. all over the place actually. you will hear some good records here but its a bit of a hotch-potch.
steady bloggin
this is associatd with the philaflava forums which are full of dickheads but which i occasionally look at to see if they have found out about anything interesting before me. th blog is more worthy of your time than the forums.
southern hospitality.
typical 'new london' trend hoppers. obnoxious and corny without their own identity but plenty of good videos to watch. probably originate from milton keynes/stevenage/bournmouth etc
dirtnap2
corpsey. say no more.
grandgood
tilted to the independents and the boom bap.
yayodancing
sheds light on things you might have missed cos you cant notice everyhting in life. done the bulk of the work on georgebush$
lattisawtapes
a slightly more classicist take on hip-hop. more conserevative perhaps than other blogs. seems like its written by someone older perhaps.
fakeshoredrive
actually i barely check this.
dirtyglovebastard.
large amounts of posts. little analysis or personal content but with an aesthetic. it has an identity. it specialises in posting things by artists i never heard of. i check this one about every 2nd day.
somanyshrimp
i usd to read this. got a feeling its in semi retirement. worth having a look to find out.
also i often read the rap threads on ilx and random forums. im sure i missd some though.
nahright/2 dope boyz
these two dont talk about what they post. they just post huge amounts of videos/sound files. i guess you could include world star hiphop in this too. there is always good music to be found on these sites.
geoge bush money/no jumper
even though i was slagging them off a bit i really like them. they know more about hiphop than me or at the very leaest know about areas of hiphop i dont know about. they put effort into writing and thinking about music rather than posting videos. as i said before i was very pleased to read the reviw of gucci's chicken talk and the doe pesci appreciation. this kind of thing is great. the writing will get more confident anyway and i dont need it to be great in any case.
realniggatumblr/guttaboyjihad
these two are fans of 'aggressive content' they are pretty funny. lots of good scans from old rap mags and both have an identifiable aesthetic. you understand where they are coming from.
spaceagedancing
this is perhaps edging towards hipster crossover territory. it has a slicker aesthetic than most other blogs. theres another one i wanted to pair with this but iv forgotten the name of it. they are big main attrakionz/clams casino fans.
martorialist.
basically if you ever read hhc in the 90s you will be on familiar territory. no identifiable aestheitc. all over the place actually. you will hear some good records here but its a bit of a hotch-potch.
steady bloggin
this is associatd with the philaflava forums which are full of dickheads but which i occasionally look at to see if they have found out about anything interesting before me. th blog is more worthy of your time than the forums.
southern hospitality.
typical 'new london' trend hoppers. obnoxious and corny without their own identity but plenty of good videos to watch. probably originate from milton keynes/stevenage/bournmouth etc
dirtnap2
corpsey. say no more.
grandgood
tilted to the independents and the boom bap.
yayodancing
sheds light on things you might have missed cos you cant notice everyhting in life. done the bulk of the work on georgebush$
lattisawtapes
a slightly more classicist take on hip-hop. more conserevative perhaps than other blogs. seems like its written by someone older perhaps.
fakeshoredrive
actually i barely check this.
dirtyglovebastard.
large amounts of posts. little analysis or personal content but with an aesthetic. it has an identity. it specialises in posting things by artists i never heard of. i check this one about every 2nd day.
somanyshrimp
i usd to read this. got a feeling its in semi retirement. worth having a look to find out.
also i often read the rap threads on ilx and random forums. im sure i missd some though.
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Benny Bunter
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cheers, just checking out RNT for the first time and its got me chuckling. Someone wrote this on there:
"I don’t know I like my white people wholesome and joyful with a vast knowledge of the history of internet meme’s and shit puttin me onto music that Fader writes articles on n shit. You know white people that keep me balanced and cultured not on no violent shit."
Thats funny!
"I don’t know I like my white people wholesome and joyful with a vast knowledge of the history of internet meme’s and shit puttin me onto music that Fader writes articles on n shit. You know white people that keep me balanced and cultured not on no violent shit."
Thats funny!
Corpsey
bandz ahoy
It's all written by one guy
http://twitter.com/#!/eastsidestevie
http://www.realniggatumblr.com/post/2449027537/redman-gilla-house-check-smack-dvd-vol-9
Rap culture is full of hilarious stuff. Rap forums are funny, too, if you can tolerate constant racism/homophobia/sexism etc. (kinda like the music actually)...
i.e. http://forums.projectcovo.com/showthread.php?t=1925131 the Jeezy does a movie photoshop thread
Martorialist is the funniest rap blog other than RNT for me. I'm pretty sure its written by a Brit, probably (as Luka says) an ex-HHC scribe.
http://twitter.com/#!/eastsidestevie
http://www.realniggatumblr.com/post/2449027537/redman-gilla-house-check-smack-dvd-vol-9
Rap culture is full of hilarious stuff. Rap forums are funny, too, if you can tolerate constant racism/homophobia/sexism etc. (kinda like the music actually)...
i.e. http://forums.projectcovo.com/showthread.php?t=1925131 the Jeezy does a movie photoshop thread
Martorialist is the funniest rap blog other than RNT for me. I'm pretty sure its written by a Brit, probably (as Luka says) an ex-HHC scribe.
CrowleyHead
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I should've specified: I'm the guy who did the Sha Stimuli interview and the Hawaiian Snow review.
I'd even appreciate patronization at this point, because I've only gotten positive comments from people I sorta know.