Music 2013

Local Authority

Local Authority

bitch city
Localities might play a part, because all of the topic of discussion so far has revolved around London/UK i presume?

Isn't the major political theme within dance/clubbing culture since its inception in the late 70's to have ultimate freedom to be whoever you want to be. Something that specifically attracts working-class and dispossessed (?) communities because of their lack of voice within greater society. And isn't Berghain in Berlin somewhat of a clubbing utopia where you are encouraged to be whoever you want to be as long as it doesn't conflict with anyone else's enjoyment? The amount of times you read in house/techno dj's interviews about how free Berlin is and how you could never replicate that for dance music anywhere else.
 
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datwun

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Location definitely makes a difference - actually thinking about it now I was reminded of some conversations I had in America about how despite all the Chicago footwork guys being from the same demographic as wider hip hop America, they were all away of house music'z gay roots and so the scene is far less homophobic than hip hop. I've seen a lot of the guys post facebook statuses in favour of gay marriage and stuff..
 
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SecondLine

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datwun said:
You could argue that one political effect of rave is that the British working class is comparatively less racially segregated than America, France ect. There's also all the anecdotal evidence about MDMA and the decline of football hooliganism. But yeah no, probably a large part of raves depoliticisation today is that its utopian ideals never were realised and to believe in them now would be naive.
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The hooliganism thing you might well be right about. The racial segregation (or lack thereof) though, surely that's down to far far deeper factors than rave culture. Things dating back decades if not centuries, rather than a culture whose heyday lasted less than a decade. If anything rave's multiracialism in the UK as compared to the US/EU was a symptom, not a cause.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
i guess 'fuck the system' messages become less common as what the system is becomes ever more intangible. we're not likely to see MCs railing against tax havens any time soon, i don't think.
 
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rubberdingyrapids

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Perhaps the next exciting thing in music might appear hand in hand with a sort of puritanical rejection of sex'n'drugs?
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this would be interesting. the nu-conservatism.

as far as rave ideals not being realised, well so what. that would make sense if the people making music now were all like untold and of a certain age to remember the rave ideals and live through it but most of todays bigger name producers arent that old. theyre making music shaped by todays cultural climate. which is just not really that ambitious, lets face it. what corpsey wrote about being innovative as well as dancefloor effective is OTM but isnt that just the nuts and bolts of what dance music is meant to be? how did people even wonder away from that to begin with?
 
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Esp

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Elijah said:
Looking forward to this. Timbaland and Justin Timberlake make the best pop.
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That first album in particular was really strong - Cry Me a River is flawless.

I was surprised when I saw that it would be solely Timbaland-produced given that Timbaland seems to be a few years into a steady decline (this is where he is now: ). But then who do you go to now for quality Pop/R&B? Who is the modern equivalent of The Neptunes or Timbaland?
 
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CrowleyHead

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Timothy's mostly trend chasing right now. I mean, his sound already got used the hell up eons ago. So he's... bouncing all over the place. For example...

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Retro-pop on some Cee-Lo Green/"It's JUST LIKE Winhouse/Adele *wink wink*" Teeny stuff here.

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Weak attempts at sleaze/club there. Actually kind of a retarded attempt at a "Teach Me How To Dougie" style rhythm, with the kind of cyborg-slop feel of the Justin album.

Hate the Missy singles, mostly because as usual, Missy's boring and brings out the biggest cliches for Timothy to recycle.

If he is overseeing Justin's album, it's... chancey, but you never know!
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Woebot has released an e-book of his blogs/article/reviews:
Might pick it up! Do I NEED a Kindle, though?
 
Elijah

Elijah

Butterz
CrowleyHead said:
Timothy's mostly trend chasing right now. I mean, his sound already got used the hell up eons ago. So he's... bouncing all over the place.
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Ive never really been bothered about Timbalands albums and stuff though. Give it to me is a nice track only one that springs to mind. Im not a big fan of a lot of his work, but the stuff I do like is up there with some of my favourites ever. He has done a lot the last 20 years man. Is there a thread for him on here? If not why not?
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Beep Me 911 is one of my favourite Timbaland tunes.

I always preferred the tracks Timberlake did with the Neptunes on ''Justified''. I've never heard ''Futuresex/Lovesounds'' - is it worth listening to? I love ''My Love'' off that which I think is co-produced by Timbo and Danja.

Also loved ''Ayo Technology'' although I think there was some sort of controversy over that - the plagiarism controversy that seems to have dogged Timbaland over the years maybe? Think he sampled a Batman video game for 'Ayo Technology'.

Anyway Timbaland's drums are/were amazing.
 
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trza

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I knew timbo had produced the queefcore track Apologize by OneRepublic, then when I heard the drums on Good Life I though he had done that one too. Turned out it was some other guy.
 
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Leo

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an interesting (to some) 2013 music development: giant retail store amoeba records digitizes rare vinyl and sells cleaned up downloads. for any artists they're unable to track down for permission, they're keeping revenue from sales of those tunes in escrow.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118065137/
 
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